Library Music Themes
General Sharing & Discussion => Requests => Topic started by: C201number2_1 on April 10, 2026, 02:56:37 AM
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I am sending this out for a much more specific request than I had a while back, for Funtastik CDs. See, while cleaning out my hard drive, I found an audio of LGFG1, from an old cwilliams video that, due to his channel being deleted, can no longer be recreated. Given the rarity of this now, I feel almost obliged to reconstruct LGFG1. However, I do not wish to just post the same LQ upload he did - no, not at all. I'd rather upload the tape in HQ! Which now leads us to our main problem...
I don't know the identities of more than half of the tracks! I'm hoping someone here has some sort of supplementary info, that can lead me in the right direction, because what I've had before is just what Shazam finds. Not the most helpful with library themes, as I'm sure is a surprise to nobody. That all being said, here is the full tracklist of the tape, with all the tracks I already know the de-Gibbs-ified names of included.
1 - Looks Good, Feels Good/Made in Sax - MCT 513 "Made in Sax"
2 - Love Junkie/Stiff Vamp - Continental HL-5003 “Don’t Be Stupid”
3 - Artistic License/Tear Drops - Continental HL-5003 “Don’t Be Stupid”
4 - Jasper
5 - Imagination Free/Estate - Ariston BGM/001 “Italian Hits (Instrumental)
6 - Two By Two/Chiedimi L’Impossible - Ariston BGM/001 “Italian Hits (Instrumental)
7 - Tennessee Twosome
8 - Skyline
9 - Sweet Revenge/Stormy Spring - Continental HL-5003 "Don't Be Stupid"
10 - Two Divine/Se Per Caso Domani - Ariston BGM/001 "Italian Hits (Instrumental)"
11 - New Mexico
12 - Manhattan Moon/Sax Love - MCT 513 "Made in Sax" (Originally released as "Slow Love" on DDLX 179 "Sam & Sally")
13 - Legacy to Love/Ustica - Ariston BGM/008 "Mediterranean Themes"
14 - Brass Rass
15 - Sunrise Canyon/San Diego - MCT 509 "Leisure"
16 - Fancy Foot Work/Back to Bop - Continental HL-5008 "Flashing"
17 - Take The Train
18 - Awakening/Good Mood - MCT 509 "Leisure"
If anybody has any info, it would be, again, much appreciated!
P.S. when I have the time, I'll make a "WIP" version of this, with all the tracks I can find recovered to HQ state
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4/10/26 - Some leads:
I can say with some confidence that the composer for Track 4 "Jasper" and Track 8 "Skyline" is one and the same - similar piano and the like says that for me. I think track 16 "Fancy Foot Work" could be the same, too, but I'm not as certain there. It is a similar orchestration to Jasper. Track 18 "Awakening" could be off an as-of-yet un-ripped Ariston program? Or Track 8 "Skyline"?
I also think tracks 7 "Tennessee Twosome", Track 11 "New Mexico", and Track 14 "Brass Rass" could share a composer, for their guitar usage.
Sources to look in:
Ariston - we know they frequented Ariston to some extent, because tracks from LGFG2 are Ariston-based as well. So, I'd assume that there is some further usage there. Someone did rip a bunch of the programs onto YT, so I'll be taking a look there.
Patchwork - For the same reasons as Ariston. That is to say, they were used in LGFG1, I think some tracks that were put in for LGFG2 were Patchwork, too. I don't think as many programs have been uploaded, or at the very least, it's not organized.
I will report back at some point, with information about my findings, at least from Ariston.
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4/11 - WIP TAPE
This is the tape, as it stands, with 8/18 HQ tracks. I haven't touched Two Divine, because... I really don't have a reason, I just haven't. As with all other tapes I have uploaded, this is THE FULL TAPE! Refer to the tracklist for information on the contents of the tape itself.
httpxs://mega.nz/file/Mf9mTAZR#TSOwq9cEPkUqArUSNkHsP1Kev-lZbyruCJknOzAvgSk
If you have any clue as to the orgin of any of the other tracks, please reach out, and help this tape become more HQ!
P.S. The lead of Ariston is lost - I have found nothing from the Ariston library to suggest that any further tracks from them were used. Some potential value exists in Patchwork, but that is also diminishing. Track 13 MIGHT be an Ariston track, but there's only the slightest of a hint in my head that this is the case.
UPD 4/13: V2 replaced with V3 - I found Track 16, and it has been restored in its proper location.
UPD 4/14: V3 replaced with V4 - Tracks 10 and 13 restored.
UPD 4/22: V4 replaced with V5 - Track 18 restored.
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4/12 - LEADS DEAD:
Final update for now, it would appear. The lead about something being on Patchwork is dead. I went through every album Universal Music posted, and found nothing. We remain at the following situation, based just off of listening to tracks:
Tracks 4 and 16 seem to share the same composer. Tracks 7, 11, 14, and 17 seem to share the same composer. Tracks 8 and 18 seem to share the same composer. Track 13 could be the same composer, as well.
And before anyone asks, no, I do NOT have the money to join the Test Card Circle. I would've done that years ago if I had the money. If anybody is willing to assist from that group, they are doing that knowing I will not be joining any time soon.
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You've probably already seen it but there is a track on YT called Boca Chica from Ariston BRM 015 Temi Per Lo Sport which claims to be from Looks Good, Feels Good but isn't one of the 18 tracks in your WAV file. Would it have been on LGFG2 instead?
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You've probably already seen it but there is a track on YT called Boca Chica from Ariston BRM 015 Temi Per Lo Sport which claims to be from Looks Good, Feels Good but isn't one of the 18 tracks in your WAV file. Would it have been on LGFG2 instead?
Yes, that is exactly the situation. Boca Chica replaced Jasper, tracks 7 and 8 were replaced by Johnny Peters tracks, track 11 was replaced by Special Motors (also off BRM 015), track 16 was replaced with Magic LA off Patchwork 89 "Rock", and there were two new tracks added by the names of Above The Clouds and New Orleans, whereas Take The Train was entirely removed, and Awakening was put onto track 17.
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4/13 - MISSING TRACKS
I have decided to create this small mini-comp, for the sole purpose of highlighting any tracks that are currently "missing" - they've been put down to their original speed (most of the tracks, I have noted about a 2% speed increase, which is small, but enough to up-tune the pitch of all the tracks. This was not an addition by cwilliams1976, this was on the original tape, as it persists into LGFG2). As a reminder, the tracks will be in the following order, on the link.
4 - Jasper
7 - Tennessee Twosome
8 - Skyline
11 - New Mexico
13 - Legacy to Love
14 - Brass Rass
17 - Take The Train
18 - Awakening
...and yes, I did find track 16. That's the last Himiko Kikuchi track, and it means that Track 4 is a separate composer. Upon listening to the track... idk how it could've been Himiko those horns are more Moments Music.
LINK HERE:
httpxs://mega.nz/file/4L9XXCAJ#0y-6oWk-hhm1nsTNwyNsL1_RIuqzDzMRdNmYGapJ46g
As always... if you have info, share it!
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I had a go at de-gibbsifying this tape a while ago. My track listing is as follows:-
01 Made In Sax - Andre Ceccarelli; Bernard Arcadio - Patchwork PW 86 - Made In Sax
02 Stiff Vamp - Himiko Kikuchi - Teichiku Entertainment - TEH-14 - Don't Be Stupid
03 Tear Drops - Himiko Kikuchi - Teichiku Entertainment - TEH-14 - Don't Be Stupid
04 Jasper (false title) - P.A. Ludlow & Friends (false artist)
05 Summer, Maybe This Summer (Estate) - Bruno Brigetti; Umberto Bindi - Ariston - BRM 001 - Italian Hits (Instrumental)
06 Ask Me Anything (Chiedimi L'Impossibile) - Giorgio Calabrese; Umberto Bindi - BRM 001 - Italian Hits (Instrumental)
07 Tenessee Twosome (false title) - P.A. Ludlow & Friends (false artist)
08 Skyline (false title) - P.A. Ludlow & Friends (false artist)
09 Stormy Spring - Himiko Kikuchi - Teichiku Entertainment - TEH-14 - Don't Be Stupid
10 If Ever Tomorrow (Se Per Caso Domani) - Bruno Martino; Luciano Rossi - Ariston - BRM 001 - Italian Hits (Instrumental)
11 New Mexico (false title) - P.A. Ludlow & Friends (false artist)
12 Slow Love - Vladimir Cosma - Disques Déesse – DDLX 179 - Sam & Sally
13 Ustica - Franco Chiaravalle; Luigi Tonet - Ariston - BRM 008 - Mediterranean Themes
14 Brass Rass (false title) - P.A. Ludlow & Friends (false artist)
15 Sunrise Canyon (false title) - P.A. Ludlow & Friends (false artist)
16 Back To Bop - Himiko Kikuchi - Teichiku Entertainment - TEH-21 - Flashing
17 Awakening (false title) - P.A. Ludlow & Friends (false artist)
The second version of this tape is as follows:-
01 Made In Sax - Andre Ceccarelli; Bernard Arcadio - Patchwork PW 86 - Made In Sax
02 Stiff Vamp - Himiko Kikuchi - Teichiku Entertainment - TEH-14 - Don't Be Stupid
03 Tear Drops - Himiko Kikuchi - Teichiku Entertainment - TEH-14 - Don't Be Stupid
04 Boca Chica - Palolo Frescura; Federico Capranica - Ariston - BRM 016 - Special Soundtracks
05 Summer, Maybe This Summer (Estate) - Bruno Brigetti; Umberto Bindi - Ariston - BRM 001 - Italian Hits (Instrumental)
06 Ask Me Anything (Chiedimi L'Impossibile) - Giorgio Calabrese; Umberto Bindi - Ariston - BRM 001 - Italian Hits (Instrumental)
07 Mexicana - Johnny Peters Orchestra - Bright Orchestral
08 My Style - Johnny Peters Orchestra - Bright Orchestral
09 Stormy Spring - Himiko Kikuchi - Teichiku Entertainment - TEH-14 - Don't Be Stupid
10 If Ever Tomorrow (Se Per Caso Domani) - Bruno Martino; Luciano Rossi - Ariston - BRM 001 - Italian Hits (Instrumental)
11 Special Motors - Marco Canepa; Adriano Mondini - Ariston - BRM CD15 - Temi Por Lo Sport
12 Ustica - Franco Chiaravalle; Luigi Tonet - Ariston - BRM 008 - Mediterranean Themes
13 Slow Love - Vladimir Cosma - Disques Déesse – DDLX 179 - Sam & Sally
14 Sunrise Canyon (false title) - P.A. Ludlow & Friends (false artist)
15 Back To Bop - Himiko Kikuchi - Teichiku Entertainment - TEH-21 - Flashing
16 Magic L.A. - Bernard Arcadio; Andre Ceccarelli; Jean-Claude Chavanat - Patchwork - MCT 89 - Rock
17 Awakening (false title) - P.A. Ludlow & Friends (false artist)
18 Above The Clouds (false title) - P.A. Ludlow & Friends (false artist)
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07 Mexicana - Johnny Peters Orchestra - Bright Orchestral
This is a false title and artist too, it's actually Popocatepetl by Ostravský Rozhlasový Orchestr, a retitled Czechosolvakian Radio recording
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This is a false title and artist too, it's actually Popocatepetl by Ostravský Rozhlasový Orchestr, a retitled Czechosolvakian Radio recording
I recall we've been down the Johnny Peters path before. At the time I found an album on Qobuz which I bought and which had 20 tracks by this fictitious artist. But there was no hint of whom the real artist might have been.
What puzzles me is the reference to P A Ludlow. We accept that this is also a false name and yet they have an entry in Discogs accompanied by a number of images of record labels on which Ludlow is credited as a co-composer. I presume it is a pseudonym as they often appear alongside Gordon Bennett (who according to Discogs is aka Brian Mallon) and Martin Kershaw. On one record I see that it was produced and arranged by Alan Hawkshaw. So do we have any idea who this Ludlow person might be?
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Lots of help today, much thanks! Especially to John_Fred for providing his own research, and making me realize that my work ethic, as with Secret Crystal, is horrifically bad. V4 could not have been done without you in particular! And yes, I feel rather dumb for saying "the Ariston lead is dead, there's nothing to be found here", when I later get revealed that there were two tracks in there. Also a thanks for V2, though I doubt I'll be working on that any time soon.
Now, regards to nidostar, and his question regarding P.A. Ludlow. I believe this is a completely different person than the one on Discogs, ESPECIALLY given the fact that the P.A. Ludlow seen on Discogs was a) based in the Netherlands for the most part, and b) seemingly died out with disco. More than anything, I think that you MIGHT have a lead with Martin Kershaw or Alan Hawkshaw. Though Alan started off with KPM, in later years (with regards to LGFG1, and it's compilation in 1991), was with Martin Kershaw on Bruton Music. Unsure where the tracks might be, but a lead does exist in the Bruton library, then.
...then again, P.A. Ludlow was the original credit on all tracks of the album, so it could just be on the same line as The Martinez Singers, or, as previously mentioned, Johnny Peters. But, at risk of grasping at absolutely nothing, I'd say Bruton is a good place to subject for investigation - especially with Skyline and Awakening. Kershaw could also be a candidate on some tracks - I look at all the "Americana" tracks (Tenessee Twosome, New Mexico, and Brass Rass) especially.
TL;DR we have a new lead thanks to you, Nido! All help is appreciated!
Also will not forget about Lord Thames for mentioning Johnny Peters, one day that will be the target of de-Gibbs-ifying, I hope. Until then, that is much appreciated.
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Small update to the above comment, I just realized something... Somewhere In My Heart/Winter Sun used Bruton tracks, and was introduced within a month of LGFG1. Bruton seems to me like a good place to look, perhaps?
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Regarding P.A. Ludlow, I had no idea there was a real one, so thanks to Nidostar for that!
Exploring his work, I see a lot of it was published by Spectrum Music - now, when I wrote to the BBC in 1994 asking about details of the Winter Sun tape, the legendary Orwyn Evans wrote back to tell me the Johnny Peters stuff was published by Spectrum as well, so I do think we're dealing with the same chap!
Plus looking through the Spectrum catalogue on Discogs, we see some familiar names - Ludlow, Gordon Bennett, and there's one with a composer credit of Dickenson, who is presumably the late Al Dickinson who was responsible for the Johnny Peters compilations that you can get online today.
Many dots are being joined now!
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P A Ludlow is listed as a composer on the GEMA database. I looked up We Couldn't Make It Work Out Right a single released on Penny Farthing. Ludlow and the co-composer Gordon Bennett were credited as one would expect but also the highly talented Richard Rodney Bennett. Is that an error d'you think or is this another dot about to be joined?
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Plus looking through the Spectrum catalogue on Discogs, we see some familiar names - Ludlow, Gordon Bennett, and there's one with a composer credit of Dickenson, who is presumably the late Al Dickinson who was responsible for the Johnny Peters compilations that you can get online today.
Apologies if I sound dumb, but where are you finding this? I know it's Discogs, that much is obvious. But there's so many different "Spectrum"s, it's rather hard to find.
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This is the one you want - discount the two South African ones, they're something different, but the Jacquie Sullivan and Dr Heavy singles are part of the same web!
discogs.com/label/1059278-Spectrum-Music-10
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07 Mexicana - Johnny Peters Orchestra - Bright Orchestral
This is a false title and artist too, it's actually Popocatepetl by Ostravský Rozhlasový Orchestr, a retitled Czechosolvakian Radio recording
Thanks for the update. Any idea of the LP/album this tune originates from? Discogs is of no help, unsurprisingly!
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No album info, unfortunately - almost certainly never commercially released, I got the info from someone who has knowledge of the instrumental recordings held in the Czechoslovakian radio archives. Other info I've had from them has been proven correct so I trust them on this one!
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....... the Jacquie Sullivan and Dr Heavy singles are part of the same web!
Funny you should mention that I looked up Spellbound, the B-side of the Jacquie Sullivan single How Can I Say Goodbye, on the GEMA database and it credits a song of that title to composers Brian Bennett and P A Ludlow. Publisher is given as Marksman Music Ltd. I wonder if GEMA have themselves confused over composers with the surname Bennett since Discogs shows the composer as Gordon not Brian Bennett? It could go to explain why Richard Rodney Bennett's name came up in my earlier post.
The single Get Back To Bach and released in the Netherlands is attributed solely to P A Ludlow on GEMA. The publisher is Spectrum Music.
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Just came back to check here, and I do think that there is some to search through in GEMA. I'm not certain how far we can get through that, but I can, in fact, confirm what was mentioned by Lord Thames - there's a good variety under Spectrum Music, with names familiar to us, such as Bennett, Ludlow, and Dickinson.
And with regards to other leads... MCT did release some CD compilations, of which they were entirely unique and were NOT released on Vinyl. Some things could be of interest, therein. While I agree that Ludlow has the potential to be a lead, I do have a feeling that MCT could also have some tracks on their CD collections, which were used in LGFG.
I personally say there's a chance for something to be on MCT albums, or CDM Music (The composer for "Sunrise Canyon", which, as has been stated, was actually "San Diego", Dominique Guiot, had new tracks on both of those labels. It's the matter of that being the only "modern wave" track which entices me to believe MCT or CDM has some of the missing tracks from LGFG1). But I will also watch the search on GEMA with interest, in case that turns something up.
And re: Bruton? Given their sound in the 80s, I don't personally believe that they have anything of value, but I could also take a look through BRD, BRF-BRH, BRR, BRS. The reason I mention those prefixes in particular is the fact that I believe that, if Bruton DOES contribute any tracks to LGFG, they would be there.
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Additionally, I updated the "missing tracks" WAV. We are now down to 6/18 tracks missing from this compilation.
httpxs://mega.nz/file/9H0xUDrT#RX5OGJWLlNM-wy7XkyfD_NF02ukwmZvBHMX8mGnHh0Q
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I've searched both GEMA and SUISA with the following results:
GEMA
Ave A Look - P A Ludlow - Moments Music Ltd
A Matter Of Time - P A Ludlow - Moments Music Ltd/Mood Media Ltd
SUISA
Ave A Look - P A Ludlow - Moments Music Ltd
Come Away With Me To Sunny Spain - Martin Kershaw/Gordon Bennett/P A Ludlow - Bloomsbury Music
Femme Fatal - Louis Baker - O Neills Music - [Performing Artists] Alan Dickinson/P A Ludlow
Out In The Sunshine - Martin Kershaw/Gordon Bennett/P A Ludlow - Bloomsbury Music
Schoolgirl - Gordon Bennett/P A Ludlow - Petal Music
Stop Thief - Gordon Bennett/P A Ludlow/Jacquie Sullivan - Air Music/Chrysalis Music
Wear And Tear - P A Ludlow - Moments Music Ltd
I'm not sure this takes us any further but I add it for what it's worth. Jacquie Sullivan was a backing singer for Roxy Music back in the 70s.
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That sentiment exactly. I don't feel like any of those tracks are within the area that tracks could potentially be. Not only because some of these tracks are listed under Moments Music (a bit too early for them - they don't even exist until 1994, iirc), but also because some of the tracks are vocal tracks - noting Stop Thief in particular.
And my apologies if I sound like I'm pressing this idea too hard, but I do legitimately believe MCT has the best chance to contain some other LGFG1 tracks on their CDs. Made in Sax and San Diego were both re-released on MCT CDs around 1989, combined with new tracks. I would search through what's been posted here already, to see if my theory is correct, but the number of CDs posted is incredibly low, in that respect.
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I've searched both GEMA and SUISA with the following results:
GEMA
Ave A Look - P A Ludlow - Moments Music Ltd
A Matter Of Time - P A Ludlow - Moments Music Ltd/Mood Media Ltd
SUISA
Ave A Look - P A Ludlow - Moments Music Ltd
Come Away With Me To Sunny Spain - Martin Kershaw/Gordon Bennett/P A Ludlow - Bloomsbury Music
Femme Fatal - Louis Baker - O Neills Music - [Performing Artists] Alan Dickinson/P A Ludlow
Out In The Sunshine - Martin Kershaw/Gordon Bennett/P A Ludlow - Bloomsbury Music
Schoolgirl - Gordon Bennett/P A Ludlow - Petal Music
Stop Thief - Gordon Bennett/P A Ludlow/Jacquie Sullivan - Air Music/Chrysalis Music
Wear And Tear - P A Ludlow - Moments Music Ltd
I'm not sure this takes us any further but I add it for what it's worth. Jacquie Sullivan was a backing singer for Roxy Music back in the 70s.
Femme Fatal (or Fatale) is track 9 from the Europa Time Ceefax tape, and is definitely a false title and composer - a different version was recently played on the Bez Slov show on Radio Regina, and the actual title is 'Petronella', composed by Tomáš Seidmann.
Petal Music, the publisher of Schoolgirl, was Alan Hawkshaw's publishing company.
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Alright, a small update - if you have been looking, you may have noticed that I was able to get new rips of MCT 501 and 503 made. And while these do not have any tracks from LGFG1, the instrumentation almost certainly tells me that MCT has the solution, at the very least, to Jasper and Awakening. I think they're in one of the other CDs, however. The search, therefore, is continuing.
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4/18:
When I started looking in MCT, I had the following albums to potentially look at, as I thought they were the most likely to have a track from LGFG:
501, 502, 503, 509, 512, 513, 516, 522, 523
I am now aware that 501-503 have NO tracks. So, my likely best bets are as follows:
509 - Repacks of MCT 91 + new tracks, I find it likely that the BBC would take more than ONE track off an album, imo.
512 - Rock-based. There's a few tracks that I reckon could fall under the banner of "rock" in LGFG1, and there's 5 new tracks there.
513 - Repack of PW 86 + 16(!) new tracks. However, assuming tracks MUST be over 3 mins long (most of the tracks that are missing are), we only have 5 new tracks.
That's the update for now. As I said before, instrumentation does give me a large hope that some of the MCT albums have tracks we're looking for. These are NOT locked away in a Czech radio archive. The answer for Jasper and Awakening, again, likely is in here.
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I'd like to offer a small update. Given that I just saw that someone uploaded the entirety of the Teichiku BGM Library, and per John_Fred, Teichiku was used to source the Himiko Kikuchi tracks of this compilation, I'll take a brief detour to examine that, and see if there isn't at least one track from that library.
The majority of my chips remain in MCT, but if I can find an alternate route through this, I will take it.
(UPD: It was not worth it. Good music, but not what we're looking for, I believe. If someone else checks that library and finds out that there were tracks which we were to be looking for, do let me know right away.)
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Alright, given that someone uploaded the MCT Library, I would like to note the following:
It is HIGHLY LIKELY that PW 86 and DDLX 179 were not used - rather, MCT 513 "Made in Sax" was... my reason for saying this? Slow Love is on MCT513 as "Sax Love", as is the title track "Made in Sax".
I have updated my own listing to reflect this observation.
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4/23 - NEW LEADS???:
I don't know who's reading my log as I keep working on this now. But, I have a small reckoning for a place to potentially look for further tracks - Moments Music Library (MML). Now, I know that the earliest they are recorded as being used by the BBC is on Hazel Crest, but I recognize the instrumentation on track 4 "Jasper" has a similar synth horn to some tracks on MML CDs.
Alternatively, there could be some cuts on Amiphonic Music, where Al Dickinson had a few pieces. Might certainly take a look at AVF30 "Cutting Loose" if possible. These, I will explore tomorrow (relative to me - I make the dates relative to the timezone of this all, not my own timezone, where it is still 4/22)
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Interesting that you're now looking at Moments Music having discounted them in an earlier post as they didn't exist until 1994. But at this stage I agree it's probably best to widen your search and not to dismiss any possibility out of hand. The Al Dickinson link is also interesting as he seems a rather elusive character. Though not as elusive as P A Ludlow who often crops up with him.
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That's what I said after a look at one fandom article, but given that tracks will sometimes cross over libraries and the like, I'll give it a bit of my time, especially since I earlier said that Track 4 had horns that almost screamed Al Dickinson to me. Hence why I'm looking there, and Amphonic. I think the places I'll take a look at first are as such:
MML003 - Children's Moments
MML005 - Dynamic Moments
MML006 - Ragtime, Blues & Boogie Moments
MML007 - Mellow Moments
MML008 - Kaleidoscope Moments
MML011 - Groove Moments
Additionally, there are two Amphonic Music records to potentially look at:
AVF 30 - Sound Stage 30: Cutting Loose (1985)
AVF 93 - Relax (1991)
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4/24 - Updates:
I don't know how to say this stuff, really... MML was a complete dud, and AVF30 is a dud, too. Which SUCKS, because the orchestration of "60s-esque rock" fit a lot of tracks. None of them were a match. I do feel like Amphonic has the answers to our problems, though... again, it's hard to explain it, I just feel like it IS.
UPD: I was looking in the wrong place. I reckon that 1988-90 is a good place to search. Putting numbers to that, I reckon AVF 60-AVF 83 is a good place to look. I'll keep AVF 93 in mind, just to see if there was an Al Dickinson track used, but I'm not certain on that.
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4/25 Updates:
I, again, don't know who keeps a log of these now, but Amphonic was an absolute dud. Not a single album on there matches tracks. So, we are back where we started... that is to say, no clue where to look. So, I'm going to ask around here - does anybody know any other labels that the BBC was pulling tracks from at this time? We know they were pulling from Patchwork/MCT, who have been searched, and have nothing that matches here. We searched Ariston, there's nothing new to find there for this tape. Presumably, Teichiku was only used for Himiko Kikuchi tracks - though I am not opposed to looking through their BGM collection again and seeing if there is anything worth finding there. And then, I know I suggested Bruton a while back, but never got to look through it. I could go through that again.
That's all for today. I don't know where to go, but I'm not leaving this so close to completion either. Even 1 new found track would exponentially increase the amount of time that can be taken up by HQ tracks. That's the ultimate goal here.
Also, there's two tracks - New Mexico and Brass Rass, afaik - that are on Apple Music, as vocal tracks, under the names "Sweetest Love" and "All Across The World". The instrumental is the same, and the label is "DRS 1206". Doing some discogs research, that album comes to be something worked on by ANOTHER Al Dickinson, completely unrelated to the one we knew prior, and was distributed in a few places - Memory Music, Palm Records, and Harmony, to name a few. The web is deepening here...
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You're certainly determined! If I may offer my thoughts to the six unidentified tracks remaining. They don't feel like they are from a mainstream library as they don't give the sense of professional musicianship which was the hallmark of the major British libraries. The trumpet on the first track sounds like it's from an early electronic keyboard with the drums from an onboard rhythm generator. To my ears it sounds almost home-made compared to library music which hade gone before. This is true of the first and last two tracks I feel. Track four has similar characteristics but seems to follow a different country style like tracks two and three. But all six tracks have those annoying artificial trumpet sounds.
Of course I'm viewing this from a British standpoint. There are dozens more libraries particularly in the USA which tended to excel in this sort of manufactured library music though I don't know if the Beeb sourced music from them.
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You're certainly determined!
I don't see a reason to not be - my goal from the start was to, hopefully, get an entirely HQ tape - or at the very least, have no less than 2 tracks that I could say "yeah I can't find these anywhere, it's not possible to be found".
The trumpet on the first track sounds like it's from an early electronic keyboard with the drums from an onboard rhythm generator. To my ears it sounds almost home-made compared to library music which hade gone before.
I absolutely agree there, it feels a lot more home-made than anything. It honestly feels more discordant than anything else - the rest of the track, save for the trumpets, sounds like it could be an early-mid 80s production, meanwhile the trumpets firmly place it in late 80s-early 90s.
Track four has similar characteristics but seems to follow a different country style like tracks two and three. But all six tracks have those annoying artificial trumpet sounds.
As said before, I'm certain that track 3 and 4 were instrumental versions of the aforementioned two tracks. I can put them up on a mega link if you'd like, for comparison, because I'm rather certain they're an instrumental rework of the tracks.
There are dozens more libraries particularly in the USA which tended to excel in this sort of manufactured library music though I don't know if the Beeb sourced music from them.
IIRC the Beeb tried to not do such a thing after a few SESAC tapes on BBC2 (if I remember correctly, that's the only spot SESAC tracks were used on?) in the early years of that channel. However, given these tracks almost certainly made their way through Spectrum Music, or some other UK-based distributor of foreign tracks, that idea really flies out the window, doesn't it? And I do also reckon that the tracks weren't made by a US label - afaik the Beeb never sourced US-originated tracks after the SESAC tapes.
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Also, the last thing I can thing of doing is searching for those two known track names (All Across The World and Sweetest Love) online, and seeing what might show up. If there's a match, and some description says it's similar, but not the same artist recognized, I could reckon that might be another lead? Idk, I'm this close to giving up and calling it wraps.
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A bit of a side note here, and someone can comment if they think there's another part of the web here, but there are some other albums, with test card-related material, that were re-released in the 2010s by a "Ditton Records", also under the label "SMD Music"... exclusively digital, very weird... what I know is they have also re-released some tracks off of MML(V)102 - at the very least, one.
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I have personally given up on this - I've come to the understanding that the chain of transmission is so utterly broken here, that it's unlikely to be found in the present situation. All I can hope for now is a higher-quality source to come out, I guess... unlikely, but one can dream, no?
I'll be starting up another search for a tape from the same timeframe soon.
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Ditton/SMD does feature Al Dickinson material, possibly tracks that are renamed , with other productions under Moments label that’s currently on Primal House Music’s site. I believe that he also composed music for the Spectrum label, possibly prior to forming Moments Music.