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testcard

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Let AI learn to create music
« on: February 08, 2025, 08:05:43 PM »
Let AI learn to summarize the beauty of melody, let AI understand the expressiveness of various instruments. . . . What can AI achieve?

At present, music works created by AI have been born, but they are not beautiful. Personally, I think it may be because there are too few learning templates, not rich enough, or the music learning templates given are too mediocre.

I am not a music major. I would like to ask you: If AI can deeply participate in the process of music creation, what are the shortcomings of AI compared with the human brain?

I've heard a few pieces of music created by AI, and it feels stiff and rough, just the primary level of composition.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2025, 08:08:35 PM by testcard »
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Re: Let AI learn to create music
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2025, 08:34:17 PM »
From my point of view, I prefer to leave human minds and creativity for art and the advancement of science and cures for diseases for artificial intelligence.

I think that music, for example, especially that in the library, has to be something composed by a human mind, made by hand. Considering what I was able to hear about AI-made melodies, they have no color, no soul, and no feeling.

The compositions and paintings, the photographs made by humans themselves, are considered to be better, they are full of pure creativity and you can connect through said work or composition. On the other hand, AI cannot do that.

It doesn't transmit anything to you.
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Re: Let AI learn to create music
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2025, 08:46:50 PM »
In my opinion, I think all music (Including library music) should be composed by human beings, and not AI, because we people can come up with much more creativity and ideas in anything than artificial intelligence.
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Re: Let AI learn to create music
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2025, 06:47:44 AM »
I had some fun feeding library tracks into Suno to see where it takes. Sometimes the results are amazing.

The argument of the human factor kinda falls flat when at certain point in the very 1980s a whole assembly of musicians could suddenly fit in a box full of samples as a replacement of a live performance.

I really avoid library music that is just a dude shifting samples in a computer to fit a theme. AI is just slightly better than that.

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Re: Let AI learn to create music
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2025, 09:09:54 AM »
Let AI learn to summarize the beauty of melody, let AI understand the expressiveness of various instruments. . . . What can AI achieve?

At present, music works created by AI have been born, but they are not beautiful. Personally, I think it may be because there are too few learning templates, not rich enough, or the music learning templates given are too mediocre.

I am not a music major. I would like to ask you: If AI can deeply participate in the process of music creation, what are the shortcomings of AI compared with the human brain?

I've heard a few pieces of music created by AI, and it feels stiff and rough, just the primary level of composition.
From my point of view, i had no problems with AI, although the imperfection. I have used AI for quite sometimes now. But one thing i like is the music with either composed by AI or an actual human beings.

But it doesn't matter if the library music composed by AI or actual human beings, but one thing that matters the most is the sound and the clarity of the music.

That's all my opinion. :) :) :)

(Sorry for my words, i tried my best to describe this as constructive as possible. Also my apology in advance if this is offensive to you.)
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Re: Let AI learn to create music
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2025, 01:08:01 PM »
I think history has shown that practically every invention of man has benefits and disadvantages whether it's the motor car or social media. The introduction of the synthesizer is an invention that totally changed the music industry. There were upsides to this eg Jean-Michel Jarre's brilliant albums like Oxygene, equinox etc. But then people started churning out mediocre music because it became so much easier to create. And with the arrival of DAWs on the computer it became even easier to just slap a load of samples together to make a "song". For me it became the turning point where some music became less interesting to listen to especially when it sounded like it was being produced through a cheap soundcard on a Windows 95 machine! In my opinion you can't beat the sound of a decently written piece of library music performed by a full-blown orchestra comprising of talented musicians. I'm currently listening to a De Wolfe album by Reg Tilsley. Brilliant!

If used responsibly I expect AI could be a really useful tool to the musician. Take the Beatles' Now And Then, for example, where John Lennon's voice was brilliantly extracted from an iffy quality cassette tape. But I fear that humanity has demonstrated on numerous occasions that it cannot act responsibly.

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Re: Let AI learn to create music
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2025, 01:16:09 PM »
I don’t care much for Al and I’m getting to the age now where it doesn’t really interest me.  That said, if an AI or similar tool could take a poorly recorded piece of music and re-produce it to a high standard, then that would interest me a little.

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Re: Let AI learn to create music
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2025, 04:11:26 AM »
Let AI learn to summarize the beauty of melody, let AI understand the expressiveness of various instruments. . . . What can AI achieve?

At present, music works created by AI have been born, but they are not beautiful. Personally, I think it may be because there are too few learning templates, not rich enough, or the music learning templates given are too mediocre.

I am not a music major. I would like to ask you: If AI can deeply participate in the process of music creation, what are the shortcomings of AI compared with the human brain?

I've heard a few pieces of music created by AI, and it feels stiff and rough, just the primary level of composition.
From my point of view, i had no problems with AI, although the imperfection. I have used AI for quite sometimes now. But one thing i like is the music with either composed by AI or an actual human beings.

But it doesn't matter if the library music composed by AI or actual human beings, but one thing that matters the most is the sound and the clarity of the music.

That's all my opinion. :) :) :)

(Sorry for my words, i tried my best to describe this as constructive as possible. Also my apology in advance if this is offensive to you.)


Sir, you did not offend me! You and everyone else are welcome to speak freely. You are all my predecessors in the field of music, and your attainments in music are far higher than mine. I humbly accept your suggestions and ideas.

I have always believed that Europeans and Americans are more talented in art than Orientals, and as an Oriental, I have always come to this forum with a learning mentality.

 :D :D








English is not my mother tongue, so there are often mistakes in writing. Please forgive me. I will try to improve.

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Re: Let AI learn to create music
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2025, 05:58:57 PM »
Let AI learn to summarize the beauty of melody, let AI understand the expressiveness of various instruments. . . . What can AI achieve?

At present, music works created by AI have been born, but they are not beautiful. Personally, I think it may be because there are too few learning templates, not rich enough, or the music learning templates given are too mediocre.

I am not a music major. I would like to ask you: If AI can deeply participate in the process of music creation, what are the shortcomings of AI compared with the human brain?

I've heard a few pieces of music created by AI, and it feels stiff and rough, just the primary level of composition.
From my point of view, i had no problems with AI, although the imperfection. I have used AI for quite sometimes now. But one thing i like is the music with either composed by AI or an actual human beings.

But it doesn't matter if the library music composed by AI or actual human beings, but one thing that matters the most is the sound and the clarity of the music.

That's all my opinion. :) :) :)

(Sorry for my words, i tried my best to describe this as constructive as possible. Also my apology in advance if this is offensive to you.)


Sir, you did not offend me! You and everyone else are welcome to speak freely. You are all my predecessors in the field of music, and your attainments in music are far higher than mine. I humbly accept your suggestions and ideas.

I have always believed that Europeans and Americans are more talented in art than Orientals, and as an Oriental, I have always come to this forum with a learning mentality.

 :D :D
Oh. Okay! Thanks for emboldening me, my friend! ;D ;D ;D