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General Sharing & Discussion => Requests => Topic started by: Greta on June 15, 2024, 01:42:37 PM
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My search for this album is becoming frantic now...
I'm not finding what I'm looking for since a long time already.
I'd be in need of a hi-res (but I wouldn't mind an "extra hi-res) vinyl rip of this terrific record (a superb jazz-funk suite of shockingly fabulous proportions, as I've read somewhere, and agreeing)
The flac copy already circulating is not satisfying at all, unfortunately.
Would anyone be so kind to share an existing vinyl rip or a fresh rippage please?
I know the original Edipan press from 1976 could be rare, but Sonor and Sounds From The Screen made a re-issue in 2015 and 2021 respectively.
Looks like the Sonor release is poor, I don't know actually, I've only read some comments. And I know nothing about the Sounds From The Screen release.
Eternally grateful.
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Hi Greta.
Here is the Sonor 2015 version.
hxxps://pixeldrain.com/u/D8u8CEeo
Hope this will do, otherwise i only got the digital version from apm.
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Hi Greta,
I found in my collection the Edi-Pan - SML 102 - Puccio Roelens - Research of Sound (1976) [FLAC]
https://pixeldrain.com/u/tdvAMRcA
Greetings
Winter in Australia( give the sun back please)
Dyo
Aussieland
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Thank you guys, but unfortunately both your rips are equal, and the same I have.
I'll explain better the issue.
It's not about the spectrogram, but about the waveform.
The Sonor rip circulating has been ripped (or later edited) compressing the dynamics to gain a high volume.
By looking at the waveform, a friend would say it looks like Grace Jones haircut!
The dynamics have been compressed to gain volume and the result is that all the peaks have been cut-off
Here I attach two screenshots exported with iZotope RX10.
1 - Track 1 (Splash Down) from said Sonor rip
(https://i.imgur.com/rZGCtLD.png)
2 - a track as it should appear by not using any bad equalization
(https://i.imgur.com/VEhQ0OH.png)
This is the reason why I'm asking for a new rip, or a different one from that already circulating.
Flemming, would you mind sending a link for the apm version to see if there is any improvement?
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https://starvingdaughters vinylimpressions.blogspot.com/search/label/Puccio%20Roelens
might be your last resort then. Dude has not been active in forever though and I did not see an e-mail address for contact.
I can provide the mp3 Version he posted.
https://www.file-upload.net /en/download-15347400/pr-ros.rar.html
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Hi Greta.
Just checked the APM version of splash down in cool edit pro (now Adobe Audition) and it is exactly the same waveform. :(
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Greta, you've piqued my interest. I have the 2021 Sounds From Screen re-issue on vinyl. I just had a quick listen with this in mind and I can tell right away that sadly this record was cut from the same "overly brickwall limited" digital master. It sounds dynamically as flat as a pancake.
I've worked on quite a few remastering projects over the years and I can probably shed some light on this....
Unfortunately starting in the late 90s there was a trend to make everything as loud as possible due to these new digital limiters that had become available, much to the detrement of the music though. It didn't matter if it destroyed the dynamics, the record labels wanted hot masters and so as a mastering engineer, you had better deliver them that way!
As a result many records were sonically destroyed in the remastering process. The original tapes would be transferred to digital and then the destruction would begin. Unfortunately the original raw transfer of the tapes (pre mastering) would usually be lost by the labels (they didn't have the foresight to keep them) so only the loud version remains to this day, and that's usually only because it got pressed to CD.
Often with smaller labels the original analogue tapes were ditched after they got transfered. So here we are 20 years later with more knowledge and respect for these incredble recordings, but all that exists to cut a new vinyl version from are the tastelessly, overly loud mastered wav files from 200?. You'd be surprised and maybe shocked to know how many vinyl re-issues are made from files derived from a CD (16/44). I know because I've worked on some!
All to say, that's what I'm assuming has happened with this record. If you could find someone with a good rip of the 1976 Edipan version, I think that would be you're only hope in this case, as it would not have been subjected to the digital limiters that became available much later on.
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Thanks for the clarification Scotch, and for offering your experience for a better understanding.
I imagined there might be such a reason, sadly.
I just have to wait until someone can provide a fresh rip from the original Edipan press. This is one of the very fav of mine, the wait will definitely be worth it.
REQUEST RENEWED!
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Hi Greta,
today I have ripped the original Edi-Pan LP. The waveform looks normal here.
Have a nice Sunday!
[Edi-Pan] SML 102 - Puccio Roelens - Research of Sound (1976)
mega.nz/file/JDwHhIbD#cuIHH97dqxGlfEiILyYBNpk1z-q7eZ9haQHhtDOT5IM
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Another shiny sunday 8]
quality is at the order of the day, what a beautiful LP !
Thanks a lot Rocco
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Very good thanks to Rocco being able to appreciate the true sound taken from the original vinyl!
Many thanks.
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Thanks Rocco for the great update. :)
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Oh yesss!
Didn't expect you to have (and provide so soon) this terrific record.
Thank you so much Rocco, impeccable rip.
You just made me happy.
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Many thanks Rocco
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Thanks Rocco! Great to have a pure sounding lossless version of this.
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Thanks Rocco, but your rips lack punch - very low. Maybe some skilled rippers here can help you to make some adjustments to your signal chain/ settings.
With that said, I stick to the superior mp3Wip from Starvin Daughters.
https://soundcloud. com/delirious-music-395255325/fire-barn-spitfire-debs
The snare on your rip of Jingle sounds more like a clap - no mater how high I turn the volume up. Doubling the volume once or twice (Debs) kinda makes it sound unnatural - at least to my ears, but maybe I am crazy...hahahaha
Anyways, kudos for your time and kindness.
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Although I don't get your comment, I just want to say you're making a bit of confusion here Onkel.
You're commenting about Rocco's rip of "Fire Barn" by Spitfire Debs in this post which is about the rip of "Research Of Sound" by Puccio Roelens.
And, the mp3 you're pointing us out at Soundcloud is not from Starving Daughters but form Delirious Music...
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Excellent, thanks a million Rocco. Really appreciate it. 8]
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Although I don't get your comment, I just want to say you're making a bit of confusion here Onkel.
You're commenting about Rocco's rip of "Fire Barn" by Spitfire Debs in this post which is about the rip of "Research Of Sound" by Puccio Roelens.
And, the mp3 you're pointing us out at Soundcloud is not from Starving Daughters but form Delirious Music...
No, the Puccio rip I posted in this thread before is from Starving Daughters blog...the 2nd part of the post beneath the SC link is about Debs, hence the mention of the 2nd track on the lp called "Jingle"...correct
Sorry, if my initial post was too complex to process. I thought that anybody who followed this thread should get it.
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https://starvingdaughters vinylimpressions.blogspot.com/search/label/Puccio%20Roelens
might be your last resort then. Dude has not been active in forever though and I did not see an e-mail address for contact.
I can provide the mp3 Version he posted.
https://www.file-upload.net /en/download-15347400/pr-ros.rar.html
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An example for a fine rip would be the version of Dawn posted on this board.
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Sorry, if my initial post was too complex to process. I thought that anybody who followed this thread should get it.
I made quite confusion myself, not remembering there was another post of yours in the first page...