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General Sharing & Discussion => Vintage Library Vinyl and CD rips => Topic started by: Greta on June 11, 2023, 11:02:50 AM

Title: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: Greta on June 11, 2023, 11:02:50 AM
I've seen a request about this few days ago.
I was intrigued by the record cause it was reminding me to something.
Till I realized it's a mix of a couple of Mozart Edition (n.52 and n.61 if I recall correctly).

The two Mozart have been shared in the past, so I merged them and set up what I think was the right tracklist.
Thanks to the OP's of the Mozart rips.

Enjoy.


(https://i.imgur.com/b0oRIFZ.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/NOb87Po.jpg)
[Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars - Il Complesso Iron Stars Presenta (1969)
music by Maria Augusta Bruni, Fausto Maggioni, Ugo Adducci, Chiola (Fausto Maggioni), Asfrinio (Mario Morghen)
flac - 16bit, 44.1kHz
mega.nz/file/HZ5gzZqb#aK5wp1WdRGXFBkEzjQd8ROoHHDy2QzSGJFe7HTzsGGo
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: Eternas Ondas Musicales on June 11, 2023, 11:15:13 AM
Cool Greta! Thanks for your shares  :)
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: AfricPepperbird on June 11, 2023, 02:03:37 PM
Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: Rocco on June 11, 2023, 07:17:28 PM
Thanks a lot for this gem Greta!
A new Radio Records, bright and sparkling. Much appreciated!
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: nidostar on June 11, 2023, 07:47:47 PM
Well remembered, Greta. Thanks for this share. So these are works written by Italian composers but, according to the back of MELP 52, the copyright is held by the British publisher Mozart Edition rather than the Italian label Radio Records? No wonder I find the world of library music so confusing. And that's before the likes of Fay Gibbs change the names of all the titles.
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: Flemming on June 11, 2023, 10:26:46 PM
Great work, thank you very much Greta.  :)
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: Ice8 on June 11, 2023, 11:09:22 PM
Thanks Greta for the excellent rip.
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: [(Sub)] on June 12, 2023, 05:59:22 AM

Great job !

Thanks Greta to clear the light on this

Apparently several of Radio records comes from Moazart edition,
as RR 122 mostly ME LP 020, RR 123 is ME LP 024, ...

Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: Kwantum Assassin on June 12, 2023, 01:50:08 PM
Thanks !
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: Texas Ranger on June 13, 2023, 09:24:35 PM
Thank you very much!
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: zoomo on June 13, 2023, 10:33:46 PM
Amazing, thanks very much Greta.
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: Tanasi on June 14, 2023, 01:56:31 AM
thanks!
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: likedeeler on June 14, 2023, 10:33:24 AM
Thank you for this, Greta! However ...

... what you've done has resulted in a misrepresentation. This is not a rip of Radio Records RR 121.

The fact that it isn't but is labelled as such is going to lead to problems in the future when this home-made compilation of parts of two Mozart rips of unknown -- and possibly different -- pedigree is shared by others. Then it will turn into a falsification, misleading people into believing they've got something which in reality they don't.

I would like to ask you (and all downloaders here as well) to consider tagging these files according to their true nature, at least. This might leave a bit of a chance that not everyone who happens to receive them via downloads of downloads of downloads will entertain illusions about what they actually are.

It should also increase the probability that we may, at some point, be able to listen to a veritable recording of Radio Records RR 121.

PS I have deleted my download, as it is the easiest way of avoiding the problems described above.
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: nidostar on June 14, 2023, 05:58:19 PM
Thank you for this, Greta! However ...

... what you've done has resulted in a misrepresentation. This is not a rip of Radio Records RR 121.

The fact that it isn't but is labelled as such is going to lead to problems in the future when this home-made compilation of parts of two Mozart rips of unknown -- and possibly different -- pedigree is shared by others. Then it will turn into a falsification, misleading people into believing they've got something which in reality they don't.

I would like to ask you (and all downloaders here as well) to consider tagging these files according to their true nature, at least. This might leave a bit of a chance that not everyone who happens to receive them via downloads of downloads of downloads will entertain illusions about what they actually are.

It should also increase the probability that we may, at some point, be able to listen to a veritable recording of Radio Records RR 121.

PS I have deleted my download, as it is the easiest way of avoiding the problems described above.
Personally I think that this is taking things a little far. Judging from the comments in this topic many members, including myself, appreciate Greta's share. Whilst the compilation may not be a faithful rip of a Radio Records album it is an accurate representation of how the album would sound and Greta has made that clear in her post. For me it's all about the music. But that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: Pino on June 14, 2023, 09:27:15 PM
Super ...πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘
Many thanks Greta 🎸🎹
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: musica pal pueblo on June 16, 2023, 12:03:42 PM
thank you very much
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: Texas Ranger on June 16, 2023, 12:14:41 PM
I got an og pressing of this one and just gave it a listening It seems that some numbers were re-recorded because they differ from the Mozart versions in a minimal way. Someone here is probably a bit small-minded but we don't let that take away the fun! Everyone here can be happy to even get the pleasure of listening to this little italian library masterpiece.

It is a wonderful share Greta and I appreciate your post very much!! It has a great audio quality...
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: geo on June 19, 2023, 12:58:09 AM
thank you, greta!!

I personally had no idea this RR title languoring in my discogs wantlist for years was essentially two previously shared Mozarts!!

again, thank you, it is great to finally hear these recordings.

and thank you n. 2 for this information. LMT is knowledge and music alike.
frankly it is fascinating to learn these RR tracks are unique recordings and not merely 'radio remixes' or 'edits'. wow!!

speaking of RR discogs languouring longshots, anyone have

Ninety, Radio Records, RR 138.

happy Sunday, friends!!

:)
geo
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: LMTH303 on June 20, 2023, 09:11:22 PM
Thank you very much Greta...it's good to know where these 2 Mozarts we're coming from...
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: likedeeler on June 26, 2023, 07:52:02 AM
... many members, including myself, appreciate Greta's share. ...

How many members appreciate this share is immaterial to the point I'm making. There is a problem in cobbling together rips and then tagging the result in a way to make it appear as something that it's not.

... it is an accurate representation of how the album would sound and Greta has made that clear in her post. ...

As one user who apparently knows the record in question has stated: the real RR 121 differs from the made-up version. So the representation isn't accurate, as was to be expected. While Greta clearly describes the nature of her share here, the share itself does not make it clear.** Hence, when this share is shared further -- as it is bound to be --, it is going to turn into a falsification. The solution that I suggest is to tag the share properly, thereby making its patchwork origins obvious. That is all.

... But that's just my opinion.

What else could it be?

_____

** Or did not make it clear; perhaps Greta has heeded my advice in the meantime.
Title: Re: [Radio Records] - RR 121 - Complesso Iron Stars
Post by: nidostar on June 26, 2023, 11:55:15 AM
... many members, including myself, appreciate Greta's share. ...

How many members appreciate this share is immaterial to the point I'm making. There is a problem in cobbling together rips and then tagging the result in a way to make it appear as something that it's not.

... it is an accurate representation of how the album would sound and Greta has made that clear in her post. ...

As one user who apparently knows the record in question has stated: the real RR 121 differs from the made-up version. So the representation isn't accurate, as was to be expected. While Greta clearly describes the nature of her share here, the share itself does not make it clear.** Hence, when this share is shared further -- as it is bound to be --, it is going to turn into a falsification. The solution that I suggest is to tag the share properly, thereby making its patchwork origins obvious. That is all.

... But that's just my opinion.

What else could it be?

_____

** Or did not make it clear; perhaps Greta has heeded my advice in the meantime.
In light of the post subsequent to mine from @No2 I see your point. The fact that the songs were re-recorded is what makes the difference. Though, to be fair, we didn't know that when Greta first posted.

"That's just my opinion" is a figure of speech in English meaning I realise I may not be speaking for everyone. :)