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General Sharing & Discussion => Vintage Library Vinyl and CD rips => Topic started by: BlackwatchPlaid on May 13, 2018, 10:31:00 AM

Title: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: BlackwatchPlaid on May 13, 2018, 10:31:00 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/GCWld61.png)

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The Intermezzi Music Library has hand selected material from the golden age of 1970s and 1980s Italian Production Music.  We offer some of the finest Vintage Library music from Original Master Recordings from different Italian publishers vaults, hunting down and uncovering rare and obscure recordings originally released exclusively for use in film, radio and television production.

Curated by writer and music supervisor David Hollander ("Black Dynamite") and music publisher and record producer Lorenzo Fabrizi (Sonor Music Editions), this dizzying array of Obscure Pop, Jazz-Funk beats, hot grooves, and refined cinematic Lounge and Easy Listening moods can be used anytime the lush and smooth sounds of vintage library music are needed.


I cleaned up the filenames and got rid of all the nasty underscores and catalog prefixes, but didn't thoroughly tag these.  These all seem to be modern compilations and aren't on discogs, and I didn't feel like the headache of opening up each and every track to find out the details for tagging.  Please refer to each album's page on APM for information regarding artist and song metadata.

apmmusic.com/libraries/intermezzi-mez


Download at your own risk

These files are transcodes.  It was pointed out to me in the comments, and I tested a few random tracks on several albums and have come to the conclusion that these albums are all transcodes from mp3.

Most look like a 128kbps MP3 or even a poorly encoded V2 in Audition.  Click the pictures for expanded views:



(https://i.imgur.com/4lTrhHq.png) (https://i.imgur.com/3OOYLyk.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/quWoaSZ.png) (https://i.imgur.com/iCNdvLT.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/lNbNR0t.png) (https://i.imgur.com/yfFZDr7.png)


I got these from apmmusic.com.  This is unacceptable behaviour from a professional media licenser that charges thousands of dollars for the use of their transcoded product.
 

I am leaving the links here so the music can get heard, just be forewarned of what you are getting.

MEZ 15-17 are not affected by this.



All albums are 16bit/48kHz FLAC.


MEZ 001 - I MARC 4 - GLP 1001
www111.zippyshare.com/v/BXnUZriQ/file.html

MEZ 002 - I MARC 4 - GLP 1002
www111.zippyshare.com/v/LUeiSKzn/file.html

MEZ 003 - I MARC 4 - GLP 1003 - Special Effects
www111.zippyshare.com/v/mOjCVYTQ/file.html

MEZ 004 - I MARC 4 - GLP 1004
www111.zippyshare.com/v/LqlxJgwV/file.html

MEZ 005 - I MARC 4 - GLP 1005
www111.zippyshare.com/v/DclZuE5l/file.html

MEZ 006 - I MARC 4 - GLP 1006
www111.zippyshare.com/v/MlTw08tb/file.html

MEZ 007 - GLP 1007
www111.zippyshare.com/v/T5UzOKNn/file.html

MEZ 008 - GLP 1008
www111.zippyshare.com/v/ANRjACfY/file.html

MEZ 009 - GLP 1009
www111.zippyshare.com/v/fLGw7iRo/file.html

MEZ 010 - GLP 1010
www111.zippyshare.com/v/oJPRwrDy/file.html

MEZ 011 - GLP 1012
www111.zippyshare.com/v/bmOJGQqy/file.html

MEZ 012 - GLP 1013
www111.zippyshare.com/v/vu7NYGsl/file.html

MEZ 013 - SM 2001
www111.zippyshare.com/v/HZhutCql/file.html

MEZ 014 - SM 2002
www111.zippyshare.com/v/cYX59uXJ/file.html

MEZ 015 - Friendship
www111.zippyshare.com/v/bBNNUQ6H/file.html

MEZ 016 - 10 Situazioni
www111.zippyshare.com/v/EgSVFCke/file.html

MEZ 017 - Tastieri Oggi
www111.zippyshare.com/v/TLpvbPpX/file.html
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: a_pylon on May 13, 2018, 12:00:09 PM
This is fantastic! So glad there's still someone who shares rare and beautiful stuff for the sake of sharing with others and not just to trade like a merchant :)
Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Simon666 on May 13, 2018, 12:45:05 PM
Fantastic work, thanks BWP!
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Greta on May 13, 2018, 12:55:54 PM
So glad there's still someone who shares rare and beautiful stuff for the sake of sharing with others and not just to strade like a merchant :)

a_pylon, I don't get you. It sounds odd, to say it gently.
Is there anybody here aimed to something different from the pleasure of sharing and spreading music and love for it? It's the nature of the forum itself. Where your thought comes from?
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Flemming on May 13, 2018, 12:58:50 PM
Beautiful, really appreciate it, thanks BlackwatchPlaid!  :)
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Greta on May 13, 2018, 01:18:38 PM
BWP, are you sure these are all 16bit/48kHz real flacs?
Most of the tracks have a lowpass cutoff at 16kHz.
Here is a pic of "Paperino Soldato" from MEZ 005.

(https://i.imgur.com/4NIlx6hh.png)
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: BlackwatchPlaid on May 13, 2018, 01:42:42 PM
I just downloaded them from APM myself yesterday.  If APM is licensing upconverted MP3s then they are the dicks, not me.

It wouldn't be the first time this has happened...

https://librarymusicthemes.com/index.php?topic=852
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: a_pylon on May 13, 2018, 02:31:55 PM
So glad there's still someone who shares rare and beautiful stuff for the sake of sharing with others and not just to strade like a merchant :)

a_pylon, I don't get you. It sounds odd, to say it gently.
Is there anybody here aimed to something different from the pleasure of sharing and spreading music and love for it? It's the nature of the forum itself. Where your thought comes from?
Dear Greta, my comment was not aimed at this blog and its activities per se, I'm sorry if there was any ambiguity on this.

This said, if you ask me if there is anybody here aimed to something different, I can tell you for sure that I know at least a couple of well-respected users of this blog (but again, this has nothing to do with the blog and neither had my comment, I hope that was clear or at least that is clearer now!)  that embrace a totally different philosophy that I respect but I really not agree with. They, as many other in the "library music game" chose never to freely share rare stuff they stumble upon or when they do share it, they share in bad quality with the purpose of trading the lossless copy (or better copy) they have.

I think that good music, especially if so rare and niche, should be for everyone interested in it, wheter they can pay or not for it (trading is just another form of payment, of corse) but this way of thinking is not particularly widespread in our communities: I guess I'm stating no secrets. So I'm always suprisingly and positively impressed when a user with so many good and rare stuff (shame on APM for the transcodes) decides to share it, for free and in good quality with everyone like BlackwatchPlaid did and - fortunately - many other users of these and other forums and private trackers still do. To recognize and show appreciation for this increasingly rare behaviour was the sole purpose of my comment!

That's all Greta! Again, I'm sorry if there was any misunderstanding.
I respect very much your work and the community that you put togheter.
Peace :)
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Mr on May 13, 2018, 02:46:48 PM
Never heard of this before, thanks for posting about them, BW.
.... but jeez, why bother with these at all? The vinyl rips sound much better. Haven't seen "Friendship", but the others have made the rounds, I believe.
That these are in such poor condition doesn't surprise me in the least knowing Lorenzo Fabrizi's name is on here, he's always been a lazy hack.
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Greta on May 13, 2018, 04:35:02 PM
If APM is licensing upconverted MP3s then they are the dicks, not me.
I was not saying you're the dick, but just asking, cause I trust your knowledge about sound quality.
You introduced these as real flacs, so I was confused and wondering.
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: BlackwatchPlaid on May 13, 2018, 08:54:16 PM
Yeah, I hadn't done my due diligence and got lazy.  I saw something that looked interesting, grabbed them and uploaded them.  I've been pretty busy with real life stuff lately and this just didn't receive the kind of scrutiny it deserved.
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Flemming on May 13, 2018, 09:23:40 PM
Its a shame, but shit happens. Lets hope they are gonna upload these in better quality, at some point   :)
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Sonor Music Editions on June 28, 2018, 05:11:44 PM
Never heard of this before, thanks for posting about them, BW.
.... but jeez, why bother with these at all? The vinyl rips sound much better. Haven't seen "Friendship", but the others have made the rounds, I believe.
That these are in such poor condition doesn't surprise me in the least knowing Lorenzo Fabrizi's name is on here, he's always been a lazy hack.


Hello there all, this is Lorenzo Fabrizi from SONOR MUSIC EDITIONS label. I'd be curious to know who you are, 'Mr', who are defining me as a 'lazy hack'. But anyway, about the music of I MARC 4 and all the Library stuff currently represented in the US territory by APM through Intermezzi label, everything has been transfered from the original tapes (when possible) and then digitally and professionally remastered. I invite you to get the music through digital stores or Spotify / SoundCloud channels and have a listen with your ears:

https://open.spotify.com/user/bastard_grooves/playlist/3M5FKJggRE2NocgXE0LzRV?si=5eKgtr-ERD2WrZQxwdDJGA
https://soundcloud.com/armagideon-times/sets/sonor-music-editions-library

Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: BlackwatchPlaid on June 28, 2018, 09:24:03 PM
But anyway, about the music of I MARC 4 and all the Library stuff currently represented in the US territory by APM through Intermezzi label, everything has been transfered from the original tapes (when possible) and then digitally and professionally remastered. I invite you to get the music through digital stores or Spotify / SoundCloud channels and have a listen with your ears:

https://open.spotify.com/user/bastard_grooves/playlist/3M5FKJggRE2NocgXE0LzRV?si=5eKgtr-ERD2WrZQxwdDJGA
https://soundcloud.com/armagideon-times/sets/sonor-music-editions-library
First of all, downloading anything through spotify or soundcloud is going to result in a lossy file.  Soundcloud transcodes your uploads to 128kbps MP3.  Spotify transcodes your uploads to ogg vorbis 320kbps. 

The files represented by the fourier transform graphs generated in Adobe Audition in this thread were downloaded directly from apmmusic.com in 16bit/48kHz .wav format.  There was no transcoding done, they were simply losslessly compressed using the FLAC codec. The result shows a signature pattern usually seen in lossy MPEG psychoacoustic filtering, a hard lowpass cutoff filter of 16kHz.  I did not phony up this graph.  This is the exact spectrum fourier transform graph from MEZ_MEZ_0005_00101_Paperino_Soldato_APM.wav downloaded directly from apmmusic.com/albums/MEZ-0005

(https://i.imgur.com/lNbNR0t.png) (https://i.imgur.com/yfFZDr7.png)

^^ You can click the image for a full size graph.

Being a representative of the results of this "work", maybe you can explain why this happened.  Did you involve a lossy step in the remastering process?  Was there ever a .mp3 file involved in any step along the way?  If so, do you need a refresher course in what lossy music is and what MPEG codecs do to frequencies and lossless audio and why you shouldn't use .mp3 files as source material?

Listening with your ears is a great thing to promote people do, but it is also a great diversion tactic to distract from your mistakes.


EDIT: Just for shits and giggles, I took you up on your suggestion and went to the soundcloud link you provided.  Here is the result.

General
Complete name                            : Bruno Battisti D'Amario - 'TRASPARENZE' - 1973 dreamy BOSSA & LOUNGE Italian Library SCORE_325521044 - Armagideon Times.mp3
Format                                   : MPEG Audio
File size                                : 9.96 MiB
Duration                                 : 10 min 52 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant
Overall bit rate                         : 128 kb/s
Writing library                          : LAME3.99r

Audio
Format                                   : MPEG Audio
Format version                           : Version 1
Format profile                           : Layer 3
Format settings                          : Joint stereo / MS Stereo
Duration                                 : 10 min 52 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 128 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                               : 38.281 FPS (1152 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 9.96 MiB (100%)
Writing library                          : LAME3.99r
Encoding settings                        : -m j -V 4 -q 3 -lowpass 17 -b 128



(https://i.imgur.com/UEyRd2R.png) (https://i.imgur.com/XSQJxRl.png)

^^ Again, click the image for full resolution.
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: a_pylon on June 28, 2018, 09:59:41 PM
Truly curious about what Sonor Music Editions has to say.
No doubts labels like SME do a huge job in re-discovering and promoting ancient gems, still...totally agree with what BWP explained perfectly.
Stuff like this should not happen, simple as that.
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Big Archive on June 29, 2018, 10:54:37 PM
BWP, please do not remember me to this drama. I download it too.....And I also got into this trap! But why they must transcode those rare, expensive and also wonderful albums, why?

I was sad when I saw this......
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: niknak on June 30, 2018, 12:03:12 AM
Sonor Music Editions, Lorenzo, firstly - welcome.

Secondly, is it possible for you to obtain the linage/process of the person/company who remastered these tracks for you? it does look like something got broken along the way. Perhaps we can help you get this fixed/resolved?

Just to add, the lossless master files used to generate the other formats provided to one particular digital play out service have the same issue but do flag as true lossless in Lossless Audio Checker but this is because of how the backend uses high noise shaping before play out. Its still missing most of the information above 16k but is masked by a fat ugly wideband noise profile on top which tricks LAC into thinking there's audio data where there isn't anything but noise.
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Sonor Music Editions on July 01, 2018, 12:46:12 PM
Hi there all, I really don't know how this problem occurred guys. The stuff has been worked and delivered on lossless quality .wav files, therefore there are no mistakes from SONOR side.

I'll investigate about this matter.
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Sonor Music Editions on July 01, 2018, 12:59:13 PM
But anyway, about the music of I MARC 4 and all the Library stuff currently represented in the US territory by APM through Intermezzi label, everything has been transfered from the original tapes (when possible) and then digitally and professionally remastered. I invite you to get the music through digital stores or Spotify / SoundCloud channels and have a listen with your ears:

https://open.spotify.com/user/bastard_grooves/playlist/3M5FKJggRE2NocgXE0LzRV?si=5eKgtr-ERD2WrZQxwdDJGA
https://soundcloud.com/armagideon-times/sets/sonor-music-editions-library
First of all, downloading anything through spotify or soundcloud is going to result in a lossy file.  Soundcloud transcodes your uploads to 128kbps MP3.  Spotify transcodes your uploads to ogg vorbis 320kbps. 

The files represented by the fourier transform graphs generated in Adobe Audition in this thread were downloaded directly from apmmusic.com in 16bit/48kHz .wav format.  There was no transcoding done, they were simply losslessly compressed using the FLAC codec. The result shows a signature pattern usually seen in lossy MPEG psychoacoustic filtering, a hard lowpass cutoff filter of 16kHz.  I did not phony up this graph.  This is the exact spectrum fourier transform graph from MEZ_MEZ_0005_00101_Paperino_Soldato_APM.wav downloaded directly from apmmusic.com/albums/MEZ-0005

(https://i.imgur.com/lNbNR0t.png) (https://i.imgur.com/yfFZDr7.png)

^^ You can click the image for a full size graph.

Being a representative of the results of this "work", maybe you can explain why this happened.  Did you involve a lossy step in the remastering process?  Was there ever a .mp3 file involved in any step along the way?  If so, do you need a refresher course in what lossy music is and what MPEG codecs do to frequencies and lossless audio and why you shouldn't use .mp3 files as source material?

Listening with your ears is a great thing to promote people do, but it is also a great diversion tactic to distract from your mistakes.


EDIT: Just for shits and giggles, I took you up on your suggestion and went to the soundcloud link you provided.  Here is the result.

General
Complete name                            : Bruno Battisti D'Amario - 'TRASPARENZE' - 1973 dreamy BOSSA & LOUNGE Italian Library SCORE_325521044 - Armagideon Times.mp3
Format                                   : MPEG Audio
File size                                : 9.96 MiB
Duration                                 : 10 min 52 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant
Overall bit rate                         : 128 kb/s
Writing library                          : LAME3.99r

Audio
Format                                   : MPEG Audio
Format version                           : Version 1
Format profile                           : Layer 3
Format settings                          : Joint stereo / MS Stereo
Duration                                 : 10 min 52 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 128 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                               : 38.281 FPS (1152 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 9.96 MiB (100%)
Writing library                          : LAME3.99r
Encoding settings                        : -m j -V 4 -q 3 -lowpass 17 -b 128



(https://i.imgur.com/UEyRd2R.png) (https://i.imgur.com/XSQJxRl.png)

^^ Again, click the image for full resolution.


SoundCloud clips are already uploaded in 320kbps mp3s, you maybe should check our Bandcamp page: https://sonormusiceditions.bandcamp.com/

There shouldn't be transcodes for simple streaming.

Anyway, quoting shits and giggles you're talking about, it's IMPOSSIBLE that a mp3 has been used as source. Do you understand this? They wouldn't pass on the system, very easy...




Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Big Archive on July 01, 2018, 01:33:12 PM
@Sonor Music Editions:

So how you explain the frequencies cutoff at 16 khz? I never seen this in real lossless files! And I MUST know that: I also rip LP's at home sometimes and this never came across to me.
We all are humans, so sometimes mistakes can happen...
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Sonor Music Editions on July 01, 2018, 01:46:51 PM
@Sonor Music Editions:

So how you explain the frequencies cutoff at 16 khz? I never seen this in real lossless files! And I MUST know that: I also rip LP's at home sometimes and this never came across to me.
We all are humans, so sometimes mistakes can happen...


I really don't know man, I'm investigating about this.




Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Big Archive on July 01, 2018, 01:54:02 PM
Thank you for do this. You should know: I am only a little music collector, but the stuff I collect I always collect in real lossless.
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: BlackwatchPlaid on July 01, 2018, 03:27:21 PM


SoundCloud clips are already uploaded in 320kbps mp3s, you maybe should check our Bandcamp page: https://sonormusiceditions.bandcamp.com/

There shouldn't be transcodes for simple streaming.

Anyway, quoting shits and giggles you're talking about, it's IMPOSSIBLE that a mp3 has been used as source. Do you understand this? They wouldn't pass on the system, very easy...
You haven't answered any of my concerns.  If it's IMPOSSIBLE an mp3 has been used as a source, then it's IMPOSSIBLE that the final .wav file would look the way it does.  But here we are, without explanations.  I have nothing else to go on.  At some point it WAS transcoded and the frequencies above 16kHz were FOREVER thrown away.  Again, I have nothing else to go on besides the final file APM is distributing and your word it is not transcoded.  The chasm between those two things is as of yet unexplained.

Quote
There shouldn't be transcodes for simple streaming.

You obviously have no idea how streaming works, do you?

Any company that is streaming digital files is going to transcode their music down to a lossy format for bandwidth concerns.  It isn't cost effective otherwise.

Your bandcamp page has a few problems.  First of all, they all say SOLD OUT.  How in the world you can sell out of a digital file that never actually leaves your hard drives is beyond me.  Second, why in the world would I purchase a transcoded file just to prove my point?  The burden of proof is on you, not me.

You came here with one reason, it is obvious.  To confront these nasty forum users sharing your music and badmouthing your work.  If you want to achieve your goals here, you really need to have something to back up why we shouldn't badmouth your work.  The technical proof is on our side, and the only thing you have come back with is a loud TRUST ME, THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN, when the evidence of it happening is on display for the world to see.  The waveforms and the fourier transform spectrum graphs don't lie.  Download the files yourself from apmmusic.com and try it yourself.  Adobe Audition (https://www.adobe.com/products/audition/free-trial-download.html) is the professional paid application you can use (they offer a 7-day free trial, btw), free options are Audacity (https://www.adobe.com/products/audition/free-trial-download.html) (excellent very widely acclaimed application) and Spek (http://spek.cc/).  The last one's not quite so good, but it still gets the point across.

(https://i.imgur.com/H5qU4Fx.png) (https://i.imgur.com/e1Ji7up.png)

BTW, for comparison's purposes, here is what an un-transcoded file should look like.

This is from a relatively LOW fidelity source file, it is the track Kenny Graham - The Square Squad from the 1962 KPM album KPM LP 21 - KPM 114A-118B and the source is an old 78rpm shellac record.  So for all intents and purposes should look WORSE than your final files, but it doesn't:

(https://i.imgur.com/RAWbGGo.png) (https://i.imgur.com/rpty08R.png)
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Sonor Music Editions on July 01, 2018, 06:09:53 PM
@BlackwatchPlaid

I'm sorry I don't know how audio streaming works. I'm record producer and music publisher, I'm not a sound engineer and I don't know how transcoding works through digital services. This is not my job, as label we have more than one sound engineer that work with us.

But, you can be sure that I'm gonna get to the bottom of this. Trust me.
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: niknak on July 01, 2018, 06:40:04 PM
Here is a zoomed close up of the beginning top edge of the track Sambaquarta to show your engineers, you can clearly see a bunch of missing data, If they use any programs that tell you that their lossless files are definitely lossless - don't trust them until you see a Spectrograph like BWPs or below of the files.

(https://i.imgur.com/glEfawo.png)
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Dick Turpin on July 01, 2018, 07:37:23 PM
For those that are not following what's going on here, there is an excellent tutorial that the What.cd (RIP) Interview prep site regarding transcode etc:

hxxps://opentrackers.org/whatinterviewprep.com/prepare-for-the-interview/spectral-analysis/index.html

Further evidence using Audacity concurring with BWP (click images to enlarge):

(https://s33.postimg.cc/udvkomncb/spectra1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/udvkomncb/)

and

(https://s33.postimg.cc/nanp92fcr/spectra2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/nanp92fcr/)

Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Big Archive on July 11, 2018, 06:11:56 PM
Any news about the lossy accident?
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Sonor Music Editions on July 16, 2018, 10:15:35 AM
Hello there all.

First of all, I need to clarify that only an APM Search registered user will have the ability to access and download lossless WAV, as well as AIFF, mp3 320 and mp3 128. Anyone not registered that is somehow ripping the music off the site will only have access to mp3 128, which is, of course, compressed for the purpose of quick streaming through the browser.

So, this point is very important: APM distributes the recordings for synchronization clients, and only registered users, using the music for synchronization, can access the full-quality WAVs.

After telling this, here's my report: these files have been transfered from the original tapes many years ago (not by me of course), and during the years they suffered of various passages, they were previously passed on DAT, then on CDs and so on. So we probably loosed some quality due all this process and we also must consider that 20/25 years ago we couldn't benefit of the technology we have now about audio editing. So it probably happened that a killer denoize filter cut off the frequencies during the various transfers as the graphics are showing? That's the most likely scenario after a talk with the original engineer that managed these files.




 
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: oliverino on July 17, 2018, 09:29:04 AM
After telling this, here's my report: these files have been transfered from the original tapes many years ago (not by me of course), and during the years they suffered of various passages, they were previously passed on DAT, then on CDs and so on. So we probably loosed some quality due all this process and we also must consider that 20/25 years ago we couldn't benefit of the technology we have now about audio editing. So it probably happened that a killer denoize filter cut off the frequencies during the various transfers as the graphics are showing? That's the most likely scenario after a talk with the original engineer that managed these files.

Thanks for the explanation. Do you still have access to the original tapes? Or an earlier generation copy (which might not have this "denoize" filter applied)? It would be a shame if this is what is left to preserve from the original tapes.
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: BlackwatchPlaid on July 18, 2018, 09:08:09 AM
Hello there all.

First of all, I need to clarify that only an APM Search registered user will have the ability to access and download lossless WAV, as well as AIFF, mp3 320 and mp3 128. Anyone not registered that is somehow ripping the music off the site will only have access to mp3 128, which is, of course, compressed for the purpose of quick streaming through the browser.

So, this point is very important: APM distributes the recordings for synchronization clients, and only registered users, using the music for synchronization, can access the full-quality WAVs.

After telling this, here's my report: these files have been transfered from the original tapes many years ago (not by me of course), and during the years they suffered of various passages, they were previously passed on DAT, then on CDs and so on. So we probably loosed some quality due all this process and we also must consider that 20/25 years ago we couldn't benefit of the technology we have now about audio editing. So it probably happened that a killer denoize filter cut off the frequencies during the various transfers as the graphics are showing? That's the most likely scenario after a talk with the original engineer that managed these files.
I am a registered user on APM music and can download the unaltered wave files.

The files on the first post of this thread are those original unaltered wave files only available to registered APM users.

That's a real shame, especially seeing as some much older and poorer condition music made it through just fine, like the KPM Brownsleeve 78rpm records, or the Jack Shaindlin reissues that Music DeWolfe put out in a series, or the Cavendish relabeling of Boosey & Hawkes material that changed several hands over the years.  This sounds an awful lot like the reason there are Dr. Who DVDs with still scenes with dialogue on top. 

A shame creators of art cannot see the value in preserving their craft.
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: Big Archive on July 18, 2018, 01:50:10 PM
I fully agree with you. Even some music of the 1930 they master perfect. But those italian masters are martering like at a 3rd world level!
Title: Re: Intermezzi Music Library
Post by: sj_beat on May 04, 2023, 07:57:57 AM
Hi ) Is there a possibility reupload ?  :)