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Title: Monty Python cues
Post by: Two-Sheds on February 12, 2024, 05:25:48 PM
I am working on a comprehensive guide to the music used by Monty Python:

https://monty-python-music.blogspot.com/

This project began a few years ago, after purchasing the Network Blu-ray set of Flying Circus, wherein most of the show's music cues are listed in the viewing notes. I have just finished revising Series 1. All of the films, albums, and specials will also be posted eventually.
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Lord Thames on February 12, 2024, 06:37:01 PM
Excellent work - nice to have all this in one place!

There are a couple of errors in the viewing notes, most notably the sting used in The Spanish Inquisition sketch, which is incorrectly listed as a Chappell piece, but that's probably down to errors by the BBC, not the infallible Andrew Pixley
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Two-Sheds on February 12, 2024, 06:54:19 PM
Yes, the piece it lists for the Spanish Inquisition ('Openings and Endings No. 2' by Robert Farnon) was actually used in the 'Gunfight at O.K. Corral in Morse Code' scene.
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Lord Thames on February 12, 2024, 08:54:31 PM
Brilliant, I didn't know that - looking forward to the rest of it!
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Two-Sheds on February 13, 2024, 10:39:22 PM
I unexpectedly happened upon the fanfare introducing 'The Kiss' animation in episode 2:

'6 Fanfares, No. 3' by Joseph Cacciola (Synchro FM 149) https://archive.org/details/78_7-fanfares-6-fanfares_l-e-defrancesco-joseph-cacciola_gbia3009829b (2:21)

Anyone who can find other as-yet-unidentified cues, please let me know.
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Two-Sheds on February 26, 2024, 07:11:24 PM
Series 2 is completed, along with a few 1971 specials (including the Birds Eye Peas industrial film, which appears to use De Wolfe exclusively, though I haven't found all of them: https://monty-python-music.blogspot.com/2024/02/the-great-birds-eye-peas-relaunch-of.html (https://monty-python-music.blogspot.com/2024/02/the-great-birds-eye-peas-relaunch-of.html)).

And Now For Something Completely Different will be posted next.
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Lord Thames on February 26, 2024, 09:30:58 PM
Excellent work again!

Additional info for you - the Timmy Williams Coffee Time credits music from S2 E19 is 'Junior Choice' by Jack Trombey from de Wolfe DWLP 3111 'Payola'

Peter Gunn from S2 E17 (The Bishop) is actually by Henry Mancini and his Orchestra, from 'The Mancini Sound', RCA Victor LPM 3943

Pearls For Swine S1 E13 is 'Happy Harp' by Jonny Teupen and his group, from a Mozart Edition LP which I have but don't have the details to hand right now
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Two-Sheds on February 26, 2024, 11:22:13 PM
Thank you! All corrections have been applied.

'Happy Harp' (ME.LP036) was listed by Pixley as "also cleared for use". If this is the Pearls For Swine theme, then 'Mother and Baby - Bossa Nova Beat' (Cinemusic CMR 316) is probably two separate tracks mistakenly listed as one. 'Mother and Baby' is a suitable title for the one unidentified cue; 'Bossa Nova Beat' is not. Though Shaindlin pieces are always difficult to confirm; most of them cannot be found online, and CMR 316 is not even on Discogs.

I've ordered CMR 201 from Discogs, so I will find out if it was indeed used in E19.
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Retronic on February 27, 2024, 07:08:34 AM
Do you have the unknown ones as mp3 files.  I think I have every de Wolfe and a catalogue so might be able to help there. 
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Two-Sheds on February 27, 2024, 07:32:52 AM
Yes, here they are: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1G2ChkO_3DaQ7WulSZv7ftrQvjwITGuvk
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: apmnut on February 28, 2024, 12:54:32 AM
Yes, here they are: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1G2ChkO_3DaQ7WulSZv7ftrQvjwITGuvk

I've got a hunch that "fc19a" is one of Jack Shaindlin's cues, potentially on CMR 202 or 301.
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Craig-UK on February 28, 2024, 01:16:29 PM
I have no idea which episode it is on or whether it was one of the movies but I recall "Swing A Day" from DWLP 3116 being used on the Blackmail skit. It was one I just accidentally came across years back.
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Two-Sheds on February 28, 2024, 01:39:01 PM
I have no idea which episode it is on or whether it was one of the movies but I recall "Swing A Day" from DWLP 3116 being used on the Blackmail skit. It was one I just accidentally came across years back.

It's in the movie And Now For Something Completely Different.
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Two-Sheds on March 01, 2024, 07:35:28 PM
And Now For Something Completely Different is posted: https://monty-python-music.blogspot.com/2024/03/and-now-for-something-completely.html

Fortunately most of them are listed in the IMDb soundtrack (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066765/soundtrack/?ref_=tt_trv_snd), but there are some uncertainties:

- I can find no information about "On Time" by Peter Reno.

- Three tracks are attributed to Bruton Music: "Fanfare No. 1" by Christopher Gunning and two classical pieces arranged by Paul Lazare - Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto and Wagner's "Liebestod". Bruton wasn't founded until 1977, but they have reissued earlier tracks from Southern, which is apparently the origin of Gunning's "Fanfare" (https://www.discogs.com/release/3417366-The-Westway-Studio-Orchestra-Ceremony-Presentation-Industry-Action-Scenic). I haven't found information on Lazare's arrangements, but his name appears on at least one Southern release (www.discogs.com/release/15871389-Various-Atmospheric-Neutral-), and other classical arrangements are attributed to him on IMDb (www.imdb.com/title/tt0146246/soundtrack/ www.imdb.com/title/tt0069131/soundtrack/).
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Retronic on March 02, 2024, 07:20:49 AM
Here are these that may have something- fingers crossed:

DW/LP 3022
DW/LP 3048
DW/LP 3059
DW/LP 3096
DW/LP 3144
DW/LP 3183
DWS/LP 3458

pixeldrain.com/u/XA3EZcxU
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Two-Sheds on March 04, 2024, 07:18:18 PM
https://monty-python-music.blogspot.com/2024/03/monty-pythons-fliegender-zirkus-episode.html

The first German episode is posted, but many are unidentified (mp3s: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19M2roewcCqt6QSkV7mzqffOXgRE3fp4m)

This includes two prominent recurring themes, for the Olympic torchbearer (FZ1b) and Albrecht Dürer (FZ1c). I suspect FZ1e is from DW/LP 3174. FZ1g is probably by John Leach, from DW/LP 3190 or perhaps Chappell C.993.
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Two-Sheds on March 24, 2024, 04:27:53 PM
Series 3 is complete! As always, corrections will be much appreciated. I now have Cinemusic CMR 201, CMR 301, and Boosey & Hawkes SBH 3001, with which I was able to fill many gaps.
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Lord Thames on March 25, 2024, 06:32:30 PM
https://monty-python-music.blogspot.com/2024/03/monty-pythons-fliegender-zirkus-episode.html

The first German episode is posted, but many are unidentified (mp3s: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19M2roewcCqt6QSkV7mzqffOXgRE3fp4m)

This includes two prominent recurring themes, for the Olympic torchbearer (FZ1b) and Albrecht Dürer (FZ1c). I suspect FZ1g is from DW/LP 3174. FZ1i is probably by John Leach, from DW/LP 3190 or perhaps Chappell C.993.

FZ1b is by Johnny Hawksworth - It's either Synchro-Fox or de Wolfe, but I've got it and will confirm later!
Title: Re: Monty Python cues
Post by: Two-Sheds on April 04, 2024, 11:52:49 PM
Every episode of Flying Circus is now posted. I have also updated the unidentified cues: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1G2ChkO_3DaQ7WulSZv7ftrQvjwITGuvk

Once all of the films, albums and remaining miscellany are posted, I plan to make a spreadsheet labeling and categorizing the unidentified cues.