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Monty Python unidentified cues
« on: September 03, 2024, 04:39:21 PM »
Here is a detailed spreadsheet of unidentified cues used in various Monty Python productions, all linked:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dp7V-umtvXBmxJadeAD-NddSy-ziVsrwjPXESqRBbaY/edit?usp=sharing

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!

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Re: Monty Python unidentified cues
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2024, 05:42:04 PM »
"fc31a" is most likely actually not a Kiessling track, but a Siegfred Merath track. I have a copy of one of his tracks ("Centipede") downloaded from a YT channel, and the sound is pretty much identical to the way this one sounds, in particular the xylophone. I won't rule out the possibility it might be a German radio recording of a track performed by his orchestra and composed by Kiessling, though.
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Re: Monty Python unidentified cues
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2024, 07:28:39 PM »
An actual find this time: "fc02a" is actually a composite of multiple tracks composed by Winston Sharples for the Van Beuren Rainbow Parade and Toddle Tales cartoons of the 1930s ("Toonerville Trolley", "Parrotville Old Folks", "Rag Dog", and "Grandfathers' Clock", in that order). This specific track, with these cuts in the exact same order, is part of a longer "medley" of these score excerpts used by the bootleg TV distributor Astra T.V. as musical background in their "Whimseyland" package of various public domain/not PD cartoons in their early 50s. You can hear a good chunk of the full medley here:

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Re: Monty Python unidentified cues
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2024, 08:20:36 PM »
Excellent find, apmnut.

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Re: Monty Python unidentified cues
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2024, 10:42:04 PM »
FC21b is, I think, part of the 'Today I Hear The Robin Sing' recording by Bill McGuffie

FZB1 is 'Today People' by Johnny Hawksworth from de Wolfe

FZ1e is 'Ferocity Fanfare' by Reg Tilsley from de Wolfe

PNh is an adaptation of Charpentier's 'Te Deum', the Eurovision theme - I believe this was specially recorded for Euroshow 71, possibly by Horst Jankowski and/or the resident musicians at Sudwestfunk


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Re: Monty Python unidentified cues
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2024, 09:40:08 PM »
PNa and PNe are "Royal Gold" (DWS/LP 3439) and "Great Occasion" (DWS/LP 3454) respectively, both by Nigel Hess and probably taken from DWCD 0170.
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Re: Monty Python unidentified cues
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2024, 05:09:11 PM »
"ATTLCa" is a composition called "Wings of Victory" by Frank Ventre from the Sam Fox library, and later reissued on Carlin's Archive Series as "Out of Town March" - albeit it's an older recording than the version released on SF 1002.

Also, the arrangement of "La Marseillaise" the Pythons used is an arrangement done by Roger Roger for the Major Records library, originally released on album 5229 in their library.
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2024, 09:23:39 AM »
"fc13a" is a sped-up excerpt from "Harp Glissando No. 2" by Frank Rothman (DW 2756).

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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2024, 07:01:10 AM »
"HGRa" is "Trigger Happy" by Keith Papworth (DW/LP 3022)

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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2024, 07:56:14 PM »
I've received physical copies of Marble Arch MALS 1141 (National Anthems) and Cinemusic CMR 311 (Light Scenic & Pastoral/Heavy Scenic).

"fc17c" is Capt. P. W. Parkes' arrangement of "The Star-Spangled Banner", performed by the Band of the Corps of Royal Engineers conducted by Parkes.

"fc21a" is "Spring Thaw" by Jack Shaindlin. The cue identified as "Assisi Byways" is not actually this track, nor any other on CMR 311; I have added it to the unidentified list as "fc21c" https://drive.google.com/file/d/1flbgFm71exArPPfnNUv-X3qYxKhBgSHY/view?usp=sharing

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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2024, 05:20:55 AM »
"HHa" is "Gently Flow" by Johnny Scott (KPM 1093).

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Re: Monty Python unidentified cues
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2024, 06:56:49 AM »
"PNf" is "Cavendish Fanfares No. 17" by Tony Kinsey (CAV-CD 15).

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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2024, 06:32:18 AM »
"PNg" is "Sound on Top" by Terry Devine-King (Hudson HRCB 4)

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Re: Monty Python unidentified cues
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2025, 05:22:40 PM »
"FZ2b" is "Hoe Down, Moe Down" John Cacavas (Chappell CIS 5055) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaghAWVTf5U&t=60s). However, the album is from 1975 and the episode from 1972. I can find no earlier release of this track, so perhaps it was retitled. If you are aware of an earlier release, please let me know.

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Re: Monty Python unidentified cues
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2025, 05:31:22 PM »
It's likely to be a track originally released by the Sonaura library in the US - I think all the CIS tracks by American composers that weren't previously released by Chappell came from there