Library Music Themes
General Sharing & Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Pumi on February 02, 2018, 09:49:42 PM
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Can't wait for this
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Whoaa yes, me too!
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Yes, indeed. Looking forward to it.
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Gosh. That's some cast list.
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Wow! Looks good.
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Very promising - love how they got so many greats to appear like Alan Hawkshaw and Brian Bennett. They also based a poster around the Bruton tower-of-boxes design; very clever.
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Very promising - love how they got so many greats to appear like Alan Hawkshaw and Brian Bennett. They also based a poster around the Bruton tower-of-boxes design; very clever.
I managed to grab one of their deWolfe lookalikey posters. There was an Amphonic one too.
I think I read somewhere that it’s scheduled for a Spring release and they’re struggling to edit it down from 4 hours of quality material. I assume they had to spend a lot of time editing out a high profile library fan who appeared in many of their promo trailers too 🤫
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Good for you! Hope they'll be able get it published in Spring.
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Who is making this/when is it released and will we get to see it?
Very excited by the prospect - thanks Rod :)
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Shawn Lee, a musician and 'library enthusiast', has a lot to do with it.
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it's an older topic to the board so my apologies for reviving it, but there is an active fb page for the film and it's been going for a good while. i first learned of it when they had a crowdfunding initiative to give it some legs.
hxxps://www.facebook.com/LibraryMusicFilm/
there are lots of interviews and teaser materials are already present there. i can only assume a bit of this additional footage won't make it to the final cut, as modern audiences don't tend to go for film running times over two hours. personally i'm not a fb fan, but occasionally it does have some redeeming content.
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it's an older topic to the board so my apologies for reviving it, but there is an active fb page for the film and it's been going for a good while. i first learned of it when they had a crowdfunding initiative to give it some legs.
hxxps://www.facebook.com/LibraryMusicFilm/
there are lots of interviews and teaser materials are already present there. i can only assume a bit of this additional footage won't make it to the final cut, as modern audiences don't tend to go for film running times over two hours. personally i'm not a fb fan, but occasionally it does have some redeeming content.
Thanks for the link, inky. This is clever...
(https://i.imgur.com/LgNOAbU.jpg)
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There's an album coming next month - https://www.kudosrecords.co.uk/release/lego148/the-library-music-film-the-library-music-film-music-from-and-inspired-by-the-film.html (https://www.kudosrecords.co.uk/release/lego148/the-library-music-film-the-library-music-film-music-from-and-inspired-by-the-film.html)
(https://media.kudosdistribution.co.uk/lego148/600/the-library-music-film-the-library-music-film-music-from-and-inspired-by-the-film.jpg)
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Great. Didn’t know about the LP. Anyone seeing the film in London Oct 6th?
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Great !
Unfortunately, I am in Paris and there is no screening for the moment...
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Any word on whether this film will eventually be released worldwide on DVD or streaming service?
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Yes there will be a DVD release along with the vinyl.
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Yes there will be a DVD release along with the vinyl.
So has anyone been successful getting hold of this DVD? Is it available in the U.S.? I can't find it.
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The DVD was on sale at the Nov 6th viewing in London. Saw the film on the day so only watched the extras on the DVD so far.
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The DVD was on sale at the Nov 6th viewing in London. Saw the film on the day so only watched the extras on the DVD so far.
What are the extras?
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Just short bits of interviews not in the final cut- nothing amazing. There's a fair few though.
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i've seen it 3 times, ordered my copy from Germany last november via discogs.
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Honestly disappointed in the lack of 80s tracks in the compilation but well, i guess it's no surprise...
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Honestly disappointed in the lack of 80s tracks in the compilation but well, i guess it's no surprise...
The ‘Unusual Sounds’ comp makes up for that :)
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Finally, I was able to see this film. I was surprised no one here has yet commented on the film's content or quality, but now maybe I understand why...
I certainly applaud the producers of the film for their vision and energy -- like most of us on this board, I was thrilled to hear that such a movie was in the works.
There are some fine moments in the film, but honestly, it was a huge disappointment.
The film is basically a series of fast-edited vignettes of DJs (mostly from L.A.) talking about their records and how cool and funky library is for sampling, interspersed with the occasional interview of a famous library composer/musician (often unidentified and never properly introduced) reminiscing about some funny thing that happened in the studio back in the day. There is *no* STORY here, no narrative, no frame to fit these vignettes into a coherent account of what library music is, the business, the personalities, etc. etc.
Someone who knew nothing about library music going into this will learn very little about it from this movie, apart from finding out that certain record collectors obsess over it.
In my humble opinion, this was a tragic missed opportunity to really introduce and educate audiences about a truly fascinating, but still relatively unknown world of music.
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The film is basically a series of fast-edited vignettes of DJs (mostly from L.A.) talking about their records and how cool and funky library is for sampling[.]
Thanks for the review, stack. I was afraid this was going to be the case since a disproportionate amount of the trailer focuses on the people who sample it and not the people who made it. Though, the interviewer and/or filmmakers seem to have created a good atmosphere and the composers look happy and excited to talk about their music.
Has this been released in the USA yet? I still would like to get a copy.
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Yes, everyone is very happy in the film. The composers are all clearly loving the nostalgia.
I got tired of waiting for a US release, so ordered the DVD from the UK. Had to buy a cheap multi-region DVD player to watch it, though. The DVD is in PAL format.
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Finally, I was able to see this film. I was surprised no one here has yet commented on the film's content or quality, but now maybe I understand why...
I certainly applaud the producers of the film for their vision and energy -- like most of us on this board, I was thrilled to hear that such a movie was in the works.
There are some fine moments in the film, but honestly, it was a huge disappointment.
The film is basically a series of fast-edited vignettes of DJs (mostly from L.A.) talking about their records and how cool and funky library is for sampling, interspersed with the occasional interview of a famous library composer/musician (often unidentified and never properly introduced) reminiscing about some funny thing that happened in the studio back in the day. There is *no* STORY here, no narrative, no frame to fit these vignettes into a coherent account of what library music is, the business, the personalities, etc. etc.
Someone who knew nothing about library music going into this will learn very little about it from this movie, apart from finding out that certain record collectors obsess over it.
In my humble opinion, this was a tragic missed opportunity to really introduce and educate audiences about a truly fascinating, but still relatively unknown world of music.
thanks for your review and reminding me about this documentary.
i watched this late last year (i think) and thought- while interesting seeing some of the people involved- i wish there was more footage and information about the process most of the artists took, how they got into library, background information, their lives etc.
it didn't feel like a documentary but more like supplementary material where someone says "after that we went to france and met up with [artist] and let's hear what he has to say"
it reminded me of a an old german programme where they'd give people 60 seconds to show everyone a day in their life.
i think it all amounts to the producers lack of experience with filmmaking. but i still appreciated it and glad i donated money to the campaign. if i can say one thing is that this documentary was done with a lot of love and respect for the artists and the music and that was beautiful to see
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totally agree with the previous comments. really love the production with all the little details like the name of every background cue being displayed and so on. this was done in style for sure! 8]
unfortunately there is way too much sort-of-bragging and pointless comments of people who really do not mean anything to library music at all.
like it was said before, it would be much better to have these features replaced by informative background by the artists, producers, label owners, cover disigners and so on...
all in all we should be thankful for this still. as it's one of a kind!
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Now available to download on iTunes, Amazon, etc. for those who haven’t seen it.
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Dang, maybe this won’t interest me much after all. It’s really too bad, I was optimistic from the trailers having seen all those composers discussing things..
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the library music film is having it's rome premiere at piero umiliani's sound workshop studio in februrary!!!
(https://i.imgur.com/scYuKhw.png)
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What about the other Library music documentary "Unusual Sounds: The Hidden History of Library Music"?
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2CgmA0-X-U)
Looks interesting to me :)
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Narholz himself! Wicked. Never seen this video before, but the book was great.
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Cool clip, but I don't think this is a full documentary. Just an ad for the Unusual Sounds book/LP.
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Narholz himself! Wicked. Never seen this video before, but the book was great.
also, i did not see this before. thanks a lot! he should have made a movie, too..
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I would love to watch this documentary. I have been searching on the web but nothing found...
https://thelibrarymusicfilm.bandcamp.com/merch/the-library-music-film-dvd-pal-2
The Library Music Film DVD (PAL)
PLEASE NOTE: SHIPPING WILL BE AROUND NOVEMBER 9, 2018
THIS IS A DVD ONLY RELEASE THERE ARE NO DLs AND NO STREAMS!!!!!!
SAME GOES FOR THE LP
Running time 113 min approx. plus 46 min. extras,, Language: English, PAL - includes 16 page booklet with photos and liner notes
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this is still available for purchase in physical format and as far as i remember, the documentary is up on amazon prime.
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I am amazed at the level of creativity and musicianship in library musicians: They would hammer 4-5 sessions in a day and it had to be right on the first take! Ok, they were allowed a couple rehearsals:) but when the tape was running, there really was no time for hesitation.
You can watch in whole The Library Music Film here hoops://vk.com/video-5456_456239077
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Thank you so much Fuzi for the link. I have just spent the last two hours watching it. I'd not heard of it before (despite this thread - not paying attention again!) and thoroughly enjoyed it. I also learned a great deal. Brilliant!
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I like to watch it every 6 months.
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You can watch in whole The Library Music Film here ...
Cheers for the link!
Just watched the whole thing (in the second half I fast forwarded it a few times). Some interesting reminiscences and soundbites there.
Too many fanboys the film could have done without, the presenter in particular. I did like the Iggy tribute act though.
Constantly pouring music over interviews is a no-no.
All in all it feels a tad disparate, lacking ambition apart from the desire to be cool, lacking actual interest in the subject, lacking a storyline and wanting a tight edit.
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This was my review of the movie back in 2019 (posted earlier on this thread). I still stand by my original response.
Finally, I was able to see this film. I was surprised no one here has yet commented on the film's content or quality, but now maybe I understand why...
I certainly applaud the producers of the film for their vision and energy -- like most of us on this board, I was thrilled to hear that such a movie was in the works.
There are some fine moments in the film, but honestly, it was a huge disappointment.
The film is basically a series of fast-edited vignettes of DJs (mostly from L.A.) talking about their records and how cool and funky library is for sampling, interspersed with the occasional interview of a famous library composer/musician (often unidentified and never properly introduced) reminiscing about some funny thing that happened in the studio back in the day. There is *no* STORY here, no narrative, no frame to fit these vignettes into a coherent account of what library music is, the business, the personalities, etc. etc.
Someone who knew nothing about library music going into this will learn very little about it from this movie, apart from finding out that certain record collectors obsess over it.
In my humble opinion, this was a tragic missed opportunity to really introduce and educate audiences about a truly fascinating, but still relatively unknown world of music.
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A missed opportunity, indeed.
The attention whores who made this -- which cannot earnestly be called a documentary -- wanted nothing more than to show off, drop names and spend a few sunny days in London, Paris and Rome. In all other regards they obviously didn't care.
Zero research. "Jungle obsession" gets mentioned, and all the presenter (think Tiny Tim, with a bigger guitar) has to say about the composers is that "not much is known about them".
Yes, darling. If you're too blasé to seek out knowledge you'll never know much about anything.
(I just found an interview with Hannelore Warner, widow of Eddie Warner: https://spaceoddities.bandcamp.com/album/space-oddities-studio-ganaro-feat-roger-roger-nino-nardini-eddie-warner-1972-1982 (https://spaceoddities.bandcamp.com/album/space-oddities-studio-ganaro-feat-roger-roger-nino-nardini-eddie-warner-1972-1982). Scroll to the bottom of the page.)
The Warners are German. Eddie had to leave Germany when Hitler took power and went to France. There, he later met Hannelore and became friends with Roger Roger and Nino Nardini (Georges Teperino). Then he founded L'Illustration Musicale. Hannelore took care of business, Eddie was responsible for the artistic output, collaborating with Roger and Teperino. They were classically trained musicians who became interested in electronic instruments and bought a lot of them for their studio, in the 1960s and '70s. There's a fantastic story and an entire documentary in this alone.
What about German labels and composers? All that the film manages to come up with is how good Selected Sound's record covers look on the shelf (agreed!), and "Klaus Weiss is great". Agreed as well. So, then?
They simply didn't feel like going to boring Hamburg, Frankfurt or Munich. If there were library labels in Berlin, they might have made the trip. But there aren't any.
What about the rappers and hip-hoppers who are the apex predators in the library music world? I would have loved to hear what they think about the topic besides "fab record". That would have been a lot more worthwhile than watching random collectors holding their trophies into the camera.
All a bit lazy -- a laziness enabled by crowdfunding. If the makers had had to get the funding from someone personally this film would have come out very different, or not at all. Nobody in his right mind would give more than a tenner for such a clueless, self-serving approach. But ask a million people, and it's not a problem.
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I suppose it depends on where you're coming from. I like it (for the most part) for a few reasons. I love seeing people's collections and especially their reactions to the music- Mike Wallace talking about listening to 'Dawn Mists' and welling up is a major highlight because I have had that feeling listening to library music (Brian Bennett's 'Image' does that to me too). I had experiences seeing adverts in newspapers and rushing to people's houses to buy old records and know lots of people who found mega haul in skips or at tips so those stories were very relatable. If people have mainly or only enjoyed library music as digital files this likely means nothing. It was highly enjoyable to me.
The hip hip connection and sampling was massively interesting to me and I also loved the constant soundtrack with the stickers appearing to tag the track names- it would have driven me mad trying to watch and trying to remember tracks at the same time. It was pacey and I think rightly so as it needs to have some appeal to a nee audience and not just a love song to the converted. If it was all about composers and their lives I wouldn't have enjoyed it- the record collections and fan stories are far more interesting to me.
I fast forward bits and find some of it annoying but overall I like it.
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I do agree it lacked a bit of an arc, so there was no sense of a beginning/intro that could be echoed at the end to let the audience know the end was coming and it sort of just ends.
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I suppose it depends on where you're coming from. ...
You're certainly right there.
The main reason why I'm being less than convinced of the film may be that I watched it not just as a lover of library music but also from the perspective of someone who was professionally involved with filmmaking and the creation of documentaries, video clips and TV reports for a time. It's simply a badly-made piece that -- apart from technical and artistic deficiencies -- shows a remarkable lack of interest in its subject as well as an absence of respect towards interview partners.
You don't sit down four venerable composers who have given the world so much joy on a row of chairs for an interview like naughty schoolboys. They're all visibly uncomfortable throughout. In a little while these men are going to leave us, how can one possibly treat them like this?
I'm not at all advocating an approach that might be too intellectual. I would have been delighted to know more about the collectors, get more anecdotes, more of the human touch and all that. The film clocks in at almost two hours, and for this running time the actual content -- in terms of entertainment, in terms of background info, in terms of everything really -- seems astonishingly thin. I don't even know what the voices of the people who are being interviewed sound like because everyone is drowned in music. The music in turn is being talked over. So we're getting the worst of both worlds from start to finish.
Even though I do consume library music mainly in the form of digital files, learning about the emotional side of physical collecting means -- would mean -- much to me. That's exactly because I cannot experience it myself in this way.
I do have some memories of library music, from the one year I lived in London as an exchange student. I became friends with two blokes who were in a band and lived together in a shared flat in Lewisham. They had a few shelves full of library records which we regularly listened to when I was there. I don't remember the term "library music" being used much -- I think we talked about "rare grooves" instead. Back then one could probably still find KPM LPs on the pavement.
But I didn't catch on. I was content with finding those records with their generic covers and the music they contained fascinating. So I missed out on this.
The ship has sailed. It would make no sense for me to start collecting library records today (I've got just a couple). It would be like spending my holidays in that Javanese fishing village my friends talk about having been so magical twenty years ago. To find a depressing remnant of it surrounded by hotel towers, interspersed with expensive shops and overrun by package tourists.
I envy you.
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A missed opportunity, indeed.
The attention whores who made this -- which cannot earnestly be called a documentary -- wanted nothing more than to show off, drop names and spend a few sunny days in London, Paris and Rome. In all other regards they obviously didn't care.
Zero research. "Jungle obsession" gets mentioned, and all the presenter (think Tiny Tim, with a bigger guitar) has to say about the composers is that "not much is known about them".
Yes, darling. If you're too blasé to seek out knowledge you'll never know much about anything.
(I just found an interview with Hannelore Warner, widow of Eddie Warner: https://spaceoddities.bandcamp.com/album/space-oddities-studio-ganaro-feat-roger-roger-nino-nardini-eddie-warner-1972-1982 (https://spaceoddities.bandcamp.com/album/space-oddities-studio-ganaro-feat-roger-roger-nino-nardini-eddie-warner-1972-1982). Scroll to the bottom of the page.)
The Warners are German. Eddie had to leave Germany when Hitler took power and went to France. There, he later met Hannelore and became friends with Roger Roger and Nino Nardini (Georges Teperino). Then he founded L'Illustration Musicale. Hannelore took care of business, Eddie was responsible for the artistic output, collaborating with Roger and Teperino. They were classically trained musicians who became interested in electronic instruments and bought a lot of them for their studio, in the 1960s and '70s. There's a fantastic story and an entire documentary in this alone.
What about German labels and composers? All that the film manages to come up with is how good Selected Sound's record covers look on the shelf (agreed!), and "Klaus Weiss is great". Agreed as well. So, then?
They simply didn't feel like going to boring Hamburg, Frankfurt or Munich. If there were library labels in Berlin, they might have made the trip. But there aren't any.
What about the rappers and hip-hoppers who are the apex predators in the library music world? I would have loved to hear what they think about the topic besides "fab record". That would have been a lot more worthwhile than watching random collectors holding their trophies into the camera.
All a bit lazy -- a laziness enabled by crowdfunding. If the makers had had to get the funding from someone personally this film would have come out very different, or not at all. Nobody in his right mind would give more than a tenner for such a clueless, self-serving approach. But ask a million people, and it's not a problem.
Word!