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General Sharing & Discussion => The Non-Library Library => Topic started by: TheRetroElevator on May 01, 2023, 09:18:49 PM

Title: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: TheRetroElevator on May 01, 2023, 09:18:49 PM
The title speaks for itself. This album is a wonderful example of Soviet Easy Listening with the most delicate orchestral music, elegant & exquisite arrangements from a great Soviet composer Alexey Mazhukov and Vocal Ensemble "VIO-66" ("ВИО-66" in Russian).



(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AJFCJaWh0Diws87j9xTL9mKWSKZtAWkntKzJYI5FAHjRY1ZD53yqhm9vIyl1rdKZaPkRa6AYMquxOisouNhwwDWX9hL6fDNB-_ZOEKqvJzZtC69sDupVICL3dDous-TlE7FZyp9SvoOOiRi9rgJi4rxgKl5Z=w256-h256-s-no)

Artist: ВИО-66 [VIO-66)
Album: Музыка Для Отдыха [Music For Recreation]
Year: 1967
Label: Мелодия [Melodiya]
Cat#: С 01519-20
Genre: Easy Listening
File Format: FLAC; Stereo; 24 Bit; 96000 Hz
Download Link: mega.nz/folder/uqxyVKoY#xCDfNM-Xqs0GAK-Mgqt7OQ
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967)
Post by: nidostar on May 01, 2023, 11:20:01 PM
A lovely easy listening album. Thank you for sharing TheRetroElevator. But, and please don't take this the wrong way, do you not think that 24 bit/96KHz is slight overkill?
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967)
Post by: TheRetroElevator on May 02, 2023, 07:54:21 AM
But, and please don't take this the wrong way, do you not think that 24 bit/96KHz is slight overkill?

Well, gotta get the maximum out of those grooves.
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967)
Post by: Kwantum Assassin on May 02, 2023, 10:54:49 AM
Thanks ! :)
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967)
Post by: nidostar on May 02, 2023, 07:47:54 PM
Well, gotta get the maximum out of those grooves.
LOL
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967)
Post by: GradyTate on May 03, 2023, 01:50:40 AM
96000 Hz of goodness.  Great sounding rip, thank you!
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: baobab13 on May 04, 2023, 06:00:48 AM
Thank you TheRetroElevator!
Wonderful record!
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: LMTH303 on May 05, 2023, 10:10:09 PM
Thanks for this one as well...great record!
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: Fuzi on May 06, 2023, 02:14:25 AM
Thank you TRE

I am trying to listen to it with VLC (on a MacBook M1Max) and it keeps bumping like there's an issue with buffer size.
This might be due to the 96 kHz sample rate

Would anyone be able to help me with the right setting? Thks
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: TheRetroElevator on May 06, 2023, 07:40:31 AM
I am trying to listen to it with VLC (on a MacBook M1Max) and it keeps bumping like there's an issue with buffer size.
This might be due to the 96 kHz sample rate

Try using such programs as foobar2000 or Pineplayer. With these apps you can change sample rate of recording while you listen.
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: Fuzi on May 06, 2023, 08:03:58 AM
The Pine app works fine!
Have you used it to convert WAV to FLAC? Do you know anything about their conversion algorithm?
Thank you TRE
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: TheRetroElevator on May 06, 2023, 08:19:51 AM
Have you used it to convert WAV to FLAC? Do you know anything about their conversion algorithm?

Unfortunately, I cannot provide any details on this.
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: nidostar on May 06, 2023, 08:48:43 AM
Thank you TRE

I am trying to listen to it with VLC (on a MacBook M1Max) and it keeps bumping like there's an issue with buffer size.
This might be due to the 96 kHz sample rate

Would anyone be able to help me with the right setting? Thks
With acknowledgement/apologies to TheRetroElevator here it is in 16bit/44.1kHz FLAC.

pixeldrain.com/u/JgejMsK2

Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: likedeeler on May 06, 2023, 10:57:15 AM
... I am trying to listen to it with VLC (on a MacBook M1Max) and it keeps bumping like there's an issue with buffer size.
This might be due to the 96 kHz sample rate ...

I've just made a few test runs with VLC and foobar2000 and different buffer size settings.

On Windows I'm having the same problem as you are with the VIO-66 album. VLC keeps skipping, even when I increase buffer size from the default 1000 ms to 5000 ms. (How to change buffer size? Go to Preferences > select "Show settings" -- "All" > select "Input / Codecs" > scroll down to section "Advanced".)

Foobar plays the files just fine, even with a buffer of 1000 ms.

When I play a standard CD file (16 bits, 44.1 kHz) with VLC I still get a skip now and then, but it isn't nearly as bad as with the 24/96 files.

When I check the codec info with VLC (Tools > Codec information) there is nothing (!) for the CD files, and for the VIO-66 the info states that the file has 96 kHz sampling rate (correct!) and 32 bits per sample (incorrect!).

FLAC does not encode 32 bits per sample.

I conclude that VLC has bugs in the decoding process that cause the skipping.

What does this tell us?

(1) VLC is not a music player. It's a video player. As very few videos will have a 24/96 soundtrack, they did not test that use case.
(2) A dedicated music player should be used to play back audio files.

This "Music for recreation" album is quite lovely, TheRetroElevator!
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967)
Post by: likedeeler on May 06, 2023, 11:09:48 AM
A lovely easy listening album. Thank you for sharing TheRetroElevator. But, and please don't take this the wrong way, do you not think that 24 bit/96KHz is slight overkill?

The sound of one track goes up to 45 kHz. Therefore you need to sample with at least 96 kHz to encode it. Therefore the sampling rate used cannot technically be qualified as overkill. Whether your stereo is capable of reproducing this is another question.

(The answer is: very likely not. Stereo systems that can reproduce sound up to 50 kHz are in a price range that few people will afford.)
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: Fuzi on May 06, 2023, 11:37:11 AM
With acknowledgement/apologies to TheRetroElevator here it is in 16bit/44.1kHz FLAC.
pixeldrain.com/u/JgejMsK2

Thanks buddy!
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: Fuzi on May 06, 2023, 11:40:55 AM
@likedeeler thank you, I always appreciate your nerdy and valuable investigations:)
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: TheRetroElevator on May 06, 2023, 12:07:19 PM
I've just made a few test runs with VLC and foobar2000 and different buffer size settings...

Thank you for your detailed analysis!

For those who are interested in technical information on digitization of this record:

Playback device: Revox B790
Preamplifier: Clearaudio Phonostage NPV2
ADC: FireWire Audiophile
Digitizer application: Sound Forge 7
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: likedeeler on May 06, 2023, 12:25:12 PM
You've got a Revox B790? Fab!
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: Fuzi on May 06, 2023, 01:34:22 PM
Dope 8]

(https://www.turntableneedles.com/assets/images/eprod/revox/thum/B-790_______________-B-GE1-921-REV.jpg)
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967)
Post by: nidostar on May 06, 2023, 02:52:34 PM
A lovely easy listening album. Thank you for sharing TheRetroElevator. But, and please don't take this the wrong way, do you not think that 24 bit/96KHz is slight overkill?

The sound of one track goes up to 45 kHz. Therefore you need to sample with at least 96 kHz to encode it. Therefore the sampling rate used cannot technically be qualified as overkill. Whether your stereo is capable of reproducing this is another question.

(The answer is: very likely it's incapable. Stereo systems that can reproduce sound up to 50 kHz are in a price range that few people will afford.)
Also even if one could afford a stereo system that could reproduce sound up to 50kHz surely the limitation is that the human ear can only hear sounds up to 20kHz. So 96kHz would not be audible to the average (note average!) human and would just annoy the hell out of the local canine population.

That said I was brought up with 78rpm and later regular vinyl records. So for me even mp3 is a great leap forward. And before anyone says anything, my hearing is still very acute and, yes, I can hear the difference between lossy and lossless files. :)
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: nidostar on May 06, 2023, 02:57:06 PM
Dope 8]

(https://www.turntableneedles.com/assets/images/eprod/revox/thum/B-790_______________-B-GE1-921-REV.jpg)
Lovely deck BTW.
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: musica pal pueblo on January 18, 2024, 05:06:33 PM
Many thanks
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: Ene on January 18, 2024, 06:47:24 PM
I had this album in mp3 version, thanks for the good rip!
Title: Re: [Melodiya] VIO-66 - Music For Recreation (1967) [FLAC]
Post by: digdeeper on February 06, 2024, 07:35:28 PM
Thank you, Retro Elevator!

@nidostar: I personally use freac to convert WAV or 96 kHz files to 16/48 FLAC. I think my personal hearing stops around 11 kHz, so I would likely not notice anything above 22 kHz encoding.