Library Music Themes
Info Database => Track IDs => Topic started by: Bronic on September 22, 2022, 10:39:17 PM
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Hello, friends of LMT.
This following sample is assembled from fragments. Only 30 seconds of this track are currently known:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZw2qm5PSAg)
Context:
This tune first appeared circa 1988/1989 as a promo on SBT network, but since 1993 this tune is associated with the opening of the Brazilian dub of comedy series "El Chapulín Colorado" from Mexican comedian Chespirito.
Starting in 1984 Chespirito programs were dubbed in portuguese but also the original BGMs were replaced with music from multiple production libraries of the time, mostly Bruton (Kids and Cartoons) and KPM.
Since the first days of Internet fans of the show are working collectively to identify most of the BGMs. The linked tune is still the biggest unsolved case.
What is known about the track?
It appeared first on Brazilian TV associated with Chespirito shows as promos in 1989 and later opening of Chapolin in 1993 and was created by the SBT network.
The track never appears in the original audio source of the Chespirito series.
It's a polka style tune but nobody can match the melody of known polkas such as "Clarinet Polka". So it may be an original composition.
The use of a crude drum machine and moog may date this track as being from late 60s - late 70s
The programs were dubbed with the called "classic dub" from 1984 to 1993 and used random international library music and soundtrack records (no official licensing was made).
In 2022 it was identified a single instance of usage outside the Chespirito promos and a couple of extra seconds of the track were unveiled but fans were not able to gain any new information.
Also in 2022 a SBT network employee displayed on Instagram the track being played on SBT sound equipment. Apparently they lost the name of the track and also just have 30 seconds of it.
Conclusion
By identifying this track you may break Brazilian internet and trend on Twitter!
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Some recent developments on the search for this track.
Early august a Brazilian comedian passed away at 84. The network from which he had a comedy show in the 80's, SBT, is the same that commissioned the dubs of Chapolin.
As homage they posted on Youtube one of his 1987-88 episodes in full.
By some dumb luck one of the segments features the mysterious track:
The segment has some extra seconds not heard before by the Chespirito fan community, two clarinet phrases before it loops again.
This set the community on fire because the network must make a report to ECAD, a brazilian music rights society, on which musical cues and works were used during the month.
Fans found ways to obtain this document and were waiting since the end of August for the report.
Today the document was released, the exhibition was listed and...
(https://i.imgur.com/L4cwINT.png)
Disappointment. Two entries, one song by John Williams. The did not list the track.
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There are rumors that this track is originally 60 seconds long. I recently found about the Tanner label which has a good chunk of short cues. If anyone has access to this library I hope you can help.
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There are rumors that this track is originally 60 seconds long. I recently found about the Tanner label which has a good chunk of short cues. If anyone has access to this library I hope you can help.
A fascinating hunt here, Bronic. Amazing how elusive this song has been for so long. The output of all the various William B. Tanner labels is massive. Predominantly jingles and advertising tags, but some really groovy stuff too. Quite a bit has been shared on LMT over the years, but this "polka" tune doesn't really sound very Tanner-ish to my ears. Wish I could help more.
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This song is the sole reason I got into the library music rabbit hole 15 years ago.
Considering all major historical events that transpired in the world ever since, I kinda fear I will be long gone when it is found.
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This is similar to what I've been looking for for the past few months. It has been 9 (or 8) years since the Chameleon Music Production Library was used by anybody (I'm talking about KENW-TV in Portales). And I'm trying to find the rest of the library with a couple of other people.
This music library is very obscure.
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This is similar to what I've been looking for for the past few months. It has been 9 (or 8) years since the Chameleon Music Production Library was used by anybody (I'm talking about KENW-TV in Portales). And I'm trying to find the rest of the library with a couple of other people.
This music library is very obscure.
Do you know this piano song that also played in the opening of this series?
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Another recent development on the search and identification of the track.
An employee of the SBT network with social media presence, possibly fed up with the requests to ID the mysterious track, made an Instagram post showcasing his access to the mysterious track on SBT's equipment and the 30 seconds available to him.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CkHHVoLDMuS/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CkHHVoLDMuS/)
The name on the digital display "CHAPOLIN CHAMAD" is a generic description of the track's usage: being used in syndication commercials of the show.
Not only the track is internally mislabeled but only exists as an edit. He argues at the end of the video that older co-workers in the sound department have no knowledge of the origin or name of the track.
The info on this track is truly lost to time despite being a famous theme know by millions of people across generations in Brazil.
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The thread on the community forum is very active and has been doing some good new guesses about this track based purely on observation:
The track may have not come from a commercial library album but extracted from another unknown source such as a comedy movie or series. The fact that this snippet only exists in mono may be an indicator of this. Also the short edit and the crude edit of the few extra seconds rediscovered in 2022 may be concealing an spoken or singing part.
The instrument of the first part may be a heavily filtered and fx processed clarinet itself and not a synthesizer. That makes sense as much of the simpler arrangements of library music are work of a single composer that writes primarily for a single instrument.
So if you have knowledge of library records of comedy movies, funny/circus music and clarinetists please let me know!
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To my ears, this is a folk European song, originally from some area of the Austrian or Bavarian Alps.
Consequently, if library, to be searched in some German or Austrian label, they're plenty of this kind of music.
Just a guess...
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I'd be looking at tracks by Jean-Jacques Perrey.
Bolaños or Televisa never told or credited Perrey for the use of his music.
He did the closing theme for another show related.
Albums like Moog Indigo Available on youtube.
And Vinyl libraries like Vanguard and Montparnasse where he did most music.
https://lemonwire.com/2017/03/17/jean-jacques-perrey-he-helped-shape-the-latin-american-imagination-and-didnt-even-know-it/
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Thanks for giving your thoughts, MusicMuzak!
But it's fair more convoluted than that:
The track in question was never part of the original series neither the Brazilian dub itself. The SBT network used this unknown track for the opening and promos for Bolaños shows (https://youtu.be/kMt7GxPjiHY?t=29) and the Chapulin's opening since 1993. In the 1980s and early 90s SBT used music from various external sources for their programming which includes commercial recordings.
The instrumentation used in the track is also a riddle for the fans. At first the intro sounds like a polymoog synth, but fans at the forum are arguing that if you listen carefully it may be a clarinet under heavy processing like a wah-wah pedal and even sped up in recording. I quite agree with this theory and I believe it to be the work of a single clarinetist, but this type of experimental processing is very unlike the straightforward music arrangements of library music.
The 9-year old thread on the fan forum is reaching nearly 200 pages, (https://forumchaves.com.br/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=10093&start=2880) and there is a lot of buzz on social media but NOTHING was found about the origins of the track to this day. Unlike other mysterious tracks of the Internet it is still is an instantly recognizable tune that was broadcasted daily on the second biggest Brazilian network for almost 30 years for millions of people.
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are you folks really sure this is library music?
perhaps it's a piece of music created by the composers that worked for the TV station....
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As stated before, the SBT network used various music sources for its bumpers, IDs and promos, mostly of non-brazilian origin including library music. They had a single in-house musician that denied the authorship of this tune and it indeed does not match his terrible production style. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lpL--KCONM)
Believe me, a lot of ground was already covered by the community through contacting SBT people and researching the other tunes related to the series (https://www.youtube.com/@BGMsCh/videos) that have been mostly successfully identified.
The community is also looking for secondary unknown piano track that can be listened here. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KC7AwkZcpIsh98OK6cS_8NjFIFIcUpUE/view) It was used at the end of multiple episodes from the early 1984 dubs. This audio clip was handed by someone at Discord that also could not trace its origin and obtained it with the name "Piano Filler #3". This is the forum post about it. (https://forumchaves.com.br/viewtopic.php?p=1216862#p1216862)
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Thanks for giving your thoughts, MusicMuzak!
But it's fair more convoluted than that:
The track in question was never part of the original series neither the Brazilian dub itself. The SBT network used this unknown track for the opening and promos for Bolaños shows (https://youtu.be/kMt7GxPjiHY?t=29) and the Chapulin's opening since 1993. In the 1980s and early 90s SBT used music from various external sources for their programming which includes commercial recordings.
The instrumentation used in the track is also a riddle for the fans. At first the intro sounds like a polymoog synth, but fans at the forum are arguing that if you listen carefully it may be a clarinet under heavy processing like a wah-wah pedal and even sped up in recording. I quite agree with this theory and I believe it to be the work of a single clarinetist, but this type of experimental processing is very unlike the straightforward music arrangements of library music.
The 9-year old thread on the fan forum is reaching nearly 200 pages, (https://forumchaves.com.br/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=10093&start=2880) and there is a lot of buzz on social media but NOTHING was found about the origins of the track to this day. Unlike other mysterious tracks of the Internet it is still is an instantly recognizable tune that was broadcasted daily on the second biggest Brazilian network for almost 30 years for millions of people.
Maybe it's not convoluted at all. Try and get the album labels mentioned and hunt for it that way. You'd be surprised what you may find by simply starting with albums.
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Maybe it's not convoluted at all. Try and get the album labels mentioned and hunt for it that way. You'd be surprised what you may find by simply starting with albums.
People before me worked hard identifying the majority of the BGM tracks related to this series. See how many were uncovered in a quite lengthy period of ten years. (https://www.youtube.com/@BGMsCh/videos) JJP's authorship of this track was ruled out several years ago.
So I'm not exactly the casual poster with a vague curiosity about this track. I listened myself thousands of library tracks this year, let alone a whole passionate community for a decade. That's a LOT of research.
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I doubt I can be of much help, but could you provide a list of all the libraries that were used on the series? What was the earliest year of its use? Provide as many concise bullet points about the tune and I'll keep an ear out for it.
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Libraries used in the brazilian dubbing of the series:
KPM, Bruton and Parry, but it's none of those labels that made the music.
The oldest use of that specific track was in 1988, in a sketch of the comedy show Veja O Gordo, presented by Jô Soares, which was broadcast on SBT, which was the same broadcaster that broadcast Chapolin in Brazil.
This is the link to watch that skit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCxK-qPZds
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I doubt I can be of much help, but could you provide a list of all the libraries that were used on the series? What was the earliest year of its use? Provide as many concise bullet points about the tune and I'll keep an ear out for it.
Retromatic, please read all my posts on this thread, they give all the context. The post right before your own has a link to a list of videos of the tracks identified by the Chespirito fan community.
The track itself is not present on original series's audio neither is part of the brazilian dub. The track was used on the opening and promos of the series by the SBT network since 1988.
Nobody knows nothing about this track so there is no target.
Thanks for your help.
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I doubt I can be of much help, but could you provide a list of all the libraries that were used on the series? What was the earliest year of its use? Provide as many concise bullet points about the tune and I'll keep an ear out for it.
This track was never used on the show, it was only used in commercials and intros.
SBT is a TV with several hard-to-find tracks, and the employees are not helpful. There are some collectors who pay a lot of money or who are friends with trusted employees who own these tracks...
The most used packages were Bruton, Valentino and tracks used in films that came with separate tracks.
SBT also had an artist who created tracks for the broadcaster and a third party company that made the songs that came out on LP's or were used only internally, at the time "Mario Lucio de Freitas" was one of the composers and also worked on the sound of the series, but his style doesn't even come close to SBT's soundtrack, and he says he didn't keep anything from the time he worked on TV, which can't be true....
And another person is maestro Zézinho, but the collection of the production company "JPS PRODUÇÕES" is not available to the public and probably wasn't made by him either, as they started making songs with a digital aspect in 1992.
I have a collection of practically all SBT songs, but there are still a few missing, and this one by Chapolin is one of them.
The track was created before 1988, we don't know the author, we don't know the title, we only know that it has more than 33 seconds, and that it is composed by drum machine Ace Tone Rhythm Ace FR-3 probably, clarinet, bass and some device of distortion. It was composed at 107 bpm
Other station tracks that are lost to the public:
First Chapolin opening song used since 1984, may be older
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525341743630254083/1062265702741983232/Pianinho.mp3
First opening track of the temptation program, used since 1994 but may be older
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525341743630254083/1062262891132227654/Tentacao_1.mp3
Soundtrack used in the wheel of fortune draws on the Tele Sena program with Silvio Santos, is older than 1998
I got this song from a collector, but he didn't say where it came from and he didn't authorize sending the original anywhere.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525341743630254083/1062262700434018314/Rodas_da_fortuna.mp3
And here is the thread of the topic
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525341743630254083/1017531978989457518/Musica_da_Abertura_do_Chapolin_Completa.mp3
Tele Sena partial result track used since 1998
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/655545965297533043/1046667497673326622/Resultado_parcial.mp3
There are several other tracks that are unknown, but these are the ones that are most likely to be from an international album.
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Derp...somehow I didn't see a few posts.
I don't see how the instrument is a clarinet, though. To me this falls under the category of electronic music as early as 1969.
It makes sense that the track was originally part of a "mixed-bag" library with :60's and :30's, explaining the edit points to make it longer/shorter.
If it helps, I believe I saw Tanner LPs once in mixed lots with Ole Georg Media Music, Abramo Allione, Trendsetter, The Key, The Cat, SPM. But I don't know if those would fit the style. I think this could be from a French or British label.
Have you found any similar tracks? It vaguely reminds me of a Parry album called "Fun and Games".
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Have you found any similar tracks? It vaguely reminds me of a Parry album called "Fun and Games".
There are lots of albums with quirk synth music similar to the one suggested, so in a way it is similar. But keyboard dominated albums are not the answer. The nature of library music authorship is that the composer will write for a lead instrument of his choice which is the one he dominates. So no chance of woodwind lines on a low budget synth album.
The only exception I could find are some releases by Giampiero Boneschi that featured woodwind instruments when sharing tracks with saxophonist Attilio Donadio, especially on ANSIS Vol.2. This album has the impossible combination of drum machine + clarinet that is the key to this search. The only missing album from this duo is the Ludo Rekord's Synthi Melod Nº2.
So anyone trying to help please ignore the 'synth' aspect and focus on the drum machine + clarinet arrangement.
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Derp...somehow I didn't see a few posts.
I don't see how the instrument is a clarinet, though. To me this falls under the category of electronic music as early as 1969.
It makes sense that the track was originally part of a "mixed-bag" library with :60's and :30's, explaining the edit points to make it longer/shorter.
If it helps, I believe I saw Tanner LPs once in mixed lots with Ole Georg Media Music, Abramo Allione, Trendsetter, The Key, The Cat, SPM. But I don't know if those would fit the style. I think this could be from a French or British label.
Have you found any similar tracks? It vaguely reminds me of a Parry album called "Fun and Games".
Moog?
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Moog?
Yeah, that's what I first thought. But they insist it's not. I still don't see how it's not.
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People on the brazilian thread really made some wild deconstruction of this track. Here is a example:
Does the following clip from the 70s sound like a moog?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v0jbZpKwE1ykbVPyQGEzxphfa7Pd4xVB/view?usp=share_link (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v0jbZpKwE1ykbVPyQGEzxphfa7Pd4xVB/view?usp=share_link)
The answer is yes. And it sounds similar to the track being searched.
Hear the previous clip on its original speed:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bvdrz7DfrcTUeZclXMvlkHYOFzmFuMxD/view?usp=share_link (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bvdrz7DfrcTUeZclXMvlkHYOFzmFuMxD/view?usp=share_link)
Is this actually a moog? No. It's a trombone through some pedal effect. This is from some DeWolfe track.
Back to the track being searched, some people are arguing that it's a sped up clarinet through some pedal distortion.
The kickstarter for this approach was a slowed down version of the track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9jNmw2dND4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9jNmw2dND4)
This sounds too wobbly, too unstable and even too fast for keyboardist's fingers on its normal speed. It's a truly a unique sound very uncharacteristic of any moog track ever recorded.
I think the assertion of not being a moog is right in this case.
Edit: The sample is actually from DeWolfe
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This sample actually is form a De Wolfe track.
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After listening to the two samples, a clarinet totally makes sense. If I were betting man I'd say it's something French or British. Have you tried Mondiophone? Just to throw some things out there...
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I don't understand which are that 30 seconds known... What is the label, track?
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I don't understand which are that 30 seconds known... What is the label, track?
Those 30 seconds were used by the SBT network since 1988:
Nobody knows absolutely nothing about this track. Origin, artist or year released. It just appeared on the SBT network and nowhere else to promote Chespirito's shows and they lost the name of the track as its complete form.
I made a study tracking the music used by SBT from 1981-1995 in promos, openings and as background music in shows. From 100 tracks analyzed about 80% were common musical releases mostly from USA and commercially released in Brazil. The exception is that SBT only sourced tracks from library music for special programming, comedy and children's shows, in this case a couple of Valentino, KPM and Bruton tracks.
I don't know what to think at this point. SBT used both known commercial music and tracks from the biggest library labels yet this tune stands out as a complete mystery. Unlike those obscure mysterious Internet songs found on random cassette tapes this tune was played on a daily basis for millions of people yet not a single bit of information was uncovered by both fans.
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Oh. I believed 30 seconds was recognized. I'm from Mexico. Here the story is also similar about background music from Chespirito and telenovelas. I asked to music editors who put the music on original Chespirito about music and laugh effects and they explained to me that many music editors worked in Chespirito and they received only tracks with titles like "Laughs 1", "happy music 9" but without credits about author and sources because in that times there was not the obligation for writing any credits on the program. When time did it obligatory, they acredited only new known music but, for example, "Whistle tune" information for The chifladitos was unknown for music editors, so uncredited!!! I want too to know now the origin of that misterious brazilian track!! "El fenómeno Chespirito" is uncredible and is amazing for me all that enthusiasm on brazilian fans!!!!!
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Oh. I believed 30 seconds was recognized. I'm from Mexico. Here the story is also similar about background music from Chespirito and telenovelas. I asked to music editors who put the music on original Chespirito about music and laugh effects and they explained to me that many music editors worked in Chespirito and they received only tracks with titles like "Laughs 1", "happy music 9" but without credits about author and sources because in that times there was not the obligation for writing any credits on the program. When time did it obligatory, they acredited only new known music but, for example, "Whistle tune" information for The chifladitos was unknown for music editors, so uncredited!!! I want too to know now the origin of that misterious brazilian track!! "El fenómeno Chespirito" is uncredible and is amazing for me all that enthusiasm on brazilian fans!!!!!
Very interesting, that was the case in Brazil too. I researched a bit of the Mexican side of Chespirito and Televisa comedy shows and they all shared that weird laugh track. I was also surprised how much of the show's original sound choices made into the Brazilian dub. Are you musicaincidental1984 on Youtube? People on the BR forum were astonished and were unaware until recently of the discovery of the source of this iconic transition effect. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyC54nGBfvQ) It's very likely in this case that even Televisa themselves didn't know the real source as you said.
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Yes, i'm musicaincidental1984 ;D
I'm glad to contribute to this! You brazilians have done all the work!! It's uncredible! Here in Mexico I see very few interest about it. I don't understand this :(
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On a small update note an early usage of this track was spotted on a off-air recording on the same SBT network probably in 1987 or older (SBT was founded in 1981):
Curiously this clip is announcing a Speedy Gonzales cartoon, another fictional Mexican character. If this was intentional choice it may indicate that the source has a Mexican or Latin American theme. Or the tune was repurposed from the Speedy Gonzales association to the Chespirito's shows on the network.
The research sadly still has no strong lead, we know nothing beyond the usage of the track. Everything is just guessing work.
By now I have a huge collection of library music and this tune isn't there. Also I cannot find examples of other vintage library music used in Brazilian TV. No Italian, French, German labels or obscure releases were ever used by TV stations here.
The library music connection to SBT network comes from some tunes from KPM, Bruton and Valentino used in programming specially children's and comedy. I believe that this is indeed a library track it made its way to Brazil first through American distribution then unofficially imported.
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I made a montage of the Chapolin soundtrack, maybe it can help with the research in some way. I've already talked to the sound designer at SBT, but he can't share the soundtrack, and SBT doesn't have the name of it registered, although they might have the record from which this music was extracted.
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Thanks for giving your thoughts, MusicMuzak!
But it's fair more convoluted than that:
The track in question was never part of the original series neither the Brazilian dub itself. The SBT network used this unknown track for the opening and promos for Bolaños shows (https://youtu.be/kMt7GxPjiHY?t=29) and the Chapulin's opening since 1993. In the 1980s and early 90s SBT used music from various external sources for their programming which includes commercial recordings.
The instrumentation used in the track is also a riddle for the fans. At first the intro sounds like a polymoog synth, but fans at the forum are arguing that if you listen carefully it may be a clarinet under heavy processing like a wah-wah pedal and even sped up in recording. I quite agree with this theory and I believe it to be the work of a single clarinetist, but this type of experimental processing is very unlike the straightforward music arrangements of library music.
The 9-year old thread on the fan forum is reaching nearly 200 pages, (https://forumchaves.com.br/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=10093&start=2880) and there is a lot of buzz on social media but NOTHING was found about the origins of the track to this day. Unlike other mysterious tracks of the Internet it is still is an instantly recognizable tune that was broadcasted daily on the second biggest Brazilian network for almost 30 years for millions of people.
Some people on reddit told me it was a soprano saxophone, but with some formant filter and LFO.
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It sounds quite Eastern European in style and it might be worth exploring the Arcadia Production Music releases.
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In somewhat unfortunate news, the fan community forum dedicated to the show (which the track is featured), decided sometime ago to close the discussions about the track and now removed all the threads about it. The 200 pages long thread is currently unavailable so 10 years of knowledge and research has gone to the drain. The thread of fan recreations of the theme is gone too. It's a hard blow on the search because new people can't join an open hub of discussion and learn upon what was already written about the track.
The forum's admin team reasoning is that the speculative nature of the subject was attracting trolls and the threads were derailing in nonsense arguments and fights. I argued about this bizarre approach with the mod team but they are also a toxic bunch of pricks. ;D
This happens the same year that a huge ongoing exhibition about the series is happening in Brazil. They even built a life size replica of the 1993 opening (https://youtu.be/uGjwPIVoaOo?t=316) featuring the know excerpt of the track. So it's still a relevant item for us Brazilians and will always be.
I wished this search gained international traction like the Fond My Mind/Feels Like a Wish (https://lostmediawiki.com/Feels_Like_A_Wish_aka_%22Fond_My_Mind%22_(found_full_version_of_unidentified_song;_1990)) that ended in success because it became viral. But unfortunately the song has no "lostwave" appeal to capture the attention of the mainstream internet.
So my LMT friends, I ask you to take this track into consideration when browsing through your collections of library and non-library music. I don't think myself it's library because how unusual it sounds and the pool of tracks from where it was initially placed among. But everybody here likes and knows a lot about weird and cool music.
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Here are the 32 seconds of the soundtrack completely clean, a file that came directly from SBT.
It's worth noting that the soundtrack is more extensive, but SBT cut it for the promos and only saved the file with 33 seconds. They have the complete version in their archives, but it's likely not digitized.